Letters for Tuesday, September 14, 2021

Get your affairs in order

At this point in time, statements such as “you can’t cure stupid” are certainly ringing true or “you can lead a horse to water but can’t force it to drink” (which is slightly less offensive).

This is all to say that no matter what scientifically unfounded reasons anti-vaxxers have chosen to stubbornly dig their heels in for not getting the vaccinations against Covid it usually changes when they, or a family member, wind up in the hospital seriously ill with this virus. I have witnessed this within my own family.

If you do not want to get vaccinated and you have children to provide for please at least be responsible enough to make sure you have your affairs in order because no matter what you think you are not immortal.

I have lost respect for so many people that I know in this community over this issue from politicians I voted for who I have learned are anti-vax and anti-mask to medical professionals I know who also feel the same way. What a sad, misinformed and conflicted world we life in right now.

Petrina Blakely, Kapa‘a

Reconsider required vaccinations

I am a regular reader of the TGI Forum and wish to commend Jen Cornforth for her rational, well-thought-out letter in Sunday’s (Sept. 12) paper concerning the rush to mandate COVID-19 vaccinations for everyone.

I have been vaccinated and plan to get a booster when available, but believe it is not for EVERYONE, especially those with underlying health conditions or natural immunity as a result of previously suffering from COVID-19. In my opinion, Ms. Cornforth’s letter should be sent to all those in charge of attempting to force everyone in the United States to submit to COVID vaccination without exception.

Perhaps our leaders need to reconsider such drastic mandates.

Edie Moe, Oma‘o

It’s time for Coco Palms to come down

My vent (from Gary Hooser’s Sept. 8 opinion) regarding the Coco Palms relic.

What is the ugliest structure on Kaua’i?

What has been Kaua’i’s ugliest structure for the past 20 years?

What is the ugliest structure that locals and visitors pass by daily and look at with shame?

What ugliest structure disfigures the formerly beautiful Wailua River setting?

What ugliest structure disses ancient Hawaiian culture?

The Coco Palms relic.

It’s way past time to get it demolished, ASAP.

Thanks for looking at this negative opinion. Yuck!

Dana Bekeart, Kapa‘a

California counties are no comparison

As with most people on Kaua‘i, I want my county government to be run fairly and efficiently. Terence O’Connor in a Letter to the Editor (TGI 9/12/21) makes a comparison between Kaua‘i County and two counties in California. He shows the ratio of the number of county employees to the populations of each of the three counties and concludes that Kaua‘i is over-governed as it has more county employees per capita than the other two counties in California.

It appears that Mr. O’Connor has omitted an important issue in his analysis: Fresno County has 15 incorporated cities in its boundaries, each with its own municipal government and city employees, including mayors and city councils. Merced County has six incorporated cities in its boundaries, each with municipal governmental structures and employees. So, Merced and Fresno Counties have county and city public servants within their boundaries. Kaua‘i County has zero incorporated cities and one mayor who oversees all Kaua‘i County employees. All of the functions performed by the city employees throughout the 21 incorporated cities in Fresno and Merced Counties are played by the county employees of Kaua‘i. We have no incorporated city municipal governments here.

I think that Mr. O’Connor might find a more correct representation of the ratio of public servants to the county population by adding up all the city and county employees in Merced and Fresno Counties and using those figures in his calculations. I share Mr. O’Connor’s concerns, but in the search for more efficient and effective government, we need accurate comparisons, mangos to mangos. I would suggest that Fresno and Merced Counties do not provide accurate comparisons to Kaua‘i County unless city employees are included in the analysis. In this case, it could be more helpful to compare Kaua‘i County to other counties in the U.S. that do not have incorporated cities in their boundaries.

John Brekke, Ha’ena

Soon, vaccine cards required for admission to anywhere

Now that eateries are requiring proof of COVID-19 vaccine cards to show that one has been totally vaccinated, I wonder, how long will it take for grocery stores, hardware stores, auto part stores, etc. to require what’s mentioned above?

Oops! Did I open up a can of worms? Didn’t mean to. It’s just facts of life!

Howard Tolbe, ‘Ele‘ele

Public shaming is needed

It is time for The Garden Island to publish the names of those who can’t be contacted or who refuse to cooperate with our COVID-19 contact tracers. And especially those who are abusive to them. People who show utter disregard for the safety of our residents deserve to be known and shamed! I want names!!!

William Hackett, Kalaheo

  1. Dt September 14, 2021 1:28 am Reply

    The same people spreading hate were the same people 16 months ago spreading love and tolerance. Pick a lane. Use a moral compass, not an agenda.

  2. RGLadder37 September 14, 2021 2:50 am Reply

    You are correct. This mandate by the government to show proof of vaccination card at restaurants is an attempt to segregate rich locals and poor locals. Those who can afford to spend the money go for the hotel dine inns and the upper restaurant prices like those in Nawiliwili Harbor restaurants. While those others just satisfied with McDonald’s still need to show vaccination cards to dine inn. The governments way to separate the rich local spenders from the poorer local spenders. Vomits. But people go through this. If you can spend the money, great.

    1. Tooindependent September 14, 2021 7:57 pm Reply

      I’m not getting your point. Why does a rich local who has a vaccination card and dines at fancy up scale restaurants have to do with poor locals who have a vaccination cards and eats at McDonald’s ? And what the hell did the government do segregate these people. I sense a more racial comment if nothing else. Good luck

      1. Reality Bites September 16, 2021 1:51 am Reply

        Ditto. What was the point.

  3. andy September 14, 2021 7:17 am Reply

    Well put, Petrina.

  4. Tooindependent September 14, 2021 7:52 am Reply

    Mr.Tolbe.. everywhere will require a proof of vaccination as you think. The best part it doesn’t matter for $50 you can by what ever card you are looking for for what ever reason you may need it.

    1. w/e September 14, 2021 1:31 pm Reply

      And the shot is free and can save lives.

      1. Natural September 14, 2021 2:37 pm Reply

        So does natural immunity.
        Check the CDC, they updated this information today.

        1. w/e September 16, 2021 2:44 pm Reply

          I’m not sure that’s true, can you provide the link to the claim?

      2. RGLadder37 September 15, 2021 10:34 pm Reply

        .672 % is the death toll rate. This is still high. Taking the vaccine may not necessarily help. Especially if you got the coronavirus in full force. Then it becomes 100 % ineffective on the vaccines to stop the virus. In which case another statistics for .672 % death toll rate on the coronavirus.

        1. w/e September 16, 2021 2:45 pm Reply

          That is a complete lack of understanding about how vaccines work.

      3. tooindependent September 18, 2021 11:04 am Reply

        nothing is free. someone is making billions on the vaccine and our tax dollars are paying for it. again nothing is FREE!

  5. Tooindependent September 14, 2021 8:06 am Reply

    Dana….. try driving through Kauaihau neighborhoods. Many lovely sites. And if you want to see the best mess try Kealia lookout inland side. Must be mayors relatives. If you or I was to that we would have been removed moths ago.

  6. Natural September 14, 2021 9:51 am Reply

    Looks like the CDC just admitted that NATURAL IMMUNITY is a reasonable excuse for no vaccine, not to worry if you’re exposed to someone with active Covid.
    About a year and a half late, but who’s counting when it’s all about propaganda and controlling the easily manipulated.
    Time to get real folks, this was all about taking away rights, bankrupting the little guys and a socialist/corporate agenda.
    I feel sorry for those that don’t think critically and want to be led by bureaucrats fear mongers and the mob mentality.

    1. Pete Antonson September 14, 2021 3:42 pm Reply

      “If you have had COVID-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. “This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine is the best way to protect yourself and others around you, especially as the more contagious Delta variant spreads around the country.”

      Why do you people just LIE LIE LIE all the time. Do you really think no one will check?
      BTW, there is no critical thinking involved in conspiracy theories like your’s.

      1. Natural September 16, 2021 11:51 am Reply

        Sorry, I don’t trust her propaganda.
        I will not comply.

        1. w/e September 16, 2021 2:45 pm Reply

          And yet you quote them above… You just trollin’?

          1. Natural September 17, 2021 3:22 pm

            No, I quote them for the Lehman.
            Natural immunity has been studied and peer reviewed for decades. I’ve read numerous medical journals about it. This is why you shouldn’t take a vaccine if you’ve already had the disease, it only adds risk of side affects. Shingles is a prime example.
            I don’t trust the CDC, but sometimes the accidentally let the truth out.

        2. Pete Antonson September 16, 2021 2:51 pm Reply

          Beside the point.
          You used the CDC as authority for your point.
          You lied about what the CDC said.
          It is your “propaganda that cannot be trusted!

    2. RD September 14, 2021 3:54 pm Reply

      “Natural immunity” did not help the 662,000 who have died in the US nor the 4.55 mil that have died worldwide. Certainly some are protected by “natural immunity” but how are you to know beforehand who those lucky people might be? Why gamble when the vaccine continues to show such robust protection?

      1. Natural September 15, 2021 11:46 am Reply

        Why gamble on an untested “vaccine” pushed by lying bureaucrats and corporate greed?
        I think your numbers might be inflated for political reasons too.
        I trust nature more than my government right now.
        How many died from other avoidable diseases in the last 18 months?

        1. james September 16, 2021 8:17 am Reply

          Relying on your “natural immunity” is fool’s gold. Maybe it will keep you from being hospitalized when you get infected but what about your folks, your grandparents, your friends, your loved ones? Those other anti-vaxxers you come into contact with? I guess you just care about yourself and not anyone else. My biggest beef with anti-vaxxers; they think they know more than experts who have devoted their lives to helping humanity. I won’t say I hope you get infected and die. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Be safe and stay away from others, especially ones you love.

          1. Natural September 17, 2021 11:14 am

            I thought vaccines worked? If your grandma didn’t take it well, that’s her option.
            Accusing me of not caring is a fool’s argument if you need protection and you’re vaccinated.
            The vaccinated can still spread it.
            Why should you worry about me?
            You make no sense.

        2. w/e September 16, 2021 2:47 pm Reply

          Untested? Really… You think that at this point it’s still untested?

          You don’t think that if there was a vaccine for those other diseases that people would want them? I mean sane people, of course.

          1. Natural September 17, 2021 11:19 am

            If you took it, then you’re the test subject.
            Good luck.
            I donate my blood for monoclonal treatment. I get antigen test every 30 days when I do and they love my pure blood without the untested vaccine.
            I know you hate my opinions, but that is o.k. with me.

          2. Peter A Antonson September 18, 2021 2:24 am

            Name the “untested vaccine” you have in mind. You won’t because you just made that up or carelessly and casually used a phrase concocted by idiots who see this issue as an eventual political advantage.

          3. Natural September 18, 2021 3:39 pm

            How about all of them!
            Not one has been around for longer than 2 years assuming they had this planned, less if it wasn’t.
            So no long term tests have been done.
            My opinion is that only an idiot would subject themselves to being a guinea pig for big pharma.

  7. manongidashadow0711 September 14, 2021 12:22 pm Reply

    Make sure that your card that you purchase has the seal of approval and be sure to cross your tees and dot your i.
    True that! if it’s worth the fine and jail time.
    Go buy yourself a fake card and see if you don’t get caught!

    1. Tooindependent September 14, 2021 7:42 pm Reply

      What makes you think I have a fake card or possibly buying one? Try Slow down when you read. What I said means it could be any card for any reason.

  8. KauaiRon September 14, 2021 1:48 pm Reply

    Your are right … and you are a great example … “you can’t cure stupid”
    Over 60% of ALL new case are from the VACCINATED.

  9. me September 14, 2021 1:50 pm Reply

    Natural Immunity Longer Lasting Than Protection From COVID-19 Vaccines: Dr. Robert Malone

  10. commonsense September 14, 2021 4:16 pm Reply

    William Hackett – That would be illegal and immoral to give names.

    As for mandatory vaccines: once someone contracts the COVID virus and builds anti-bodies, they should be exempt from being forced to take the vaccine because natural anti-bodies are as good , or better, than a manufactured vaccine. If officials are going to mandate vaccines and restrict peoples rights, then they should take the natural fight against the disease into account and treat these people the same as those that had the vaccine. Seems like common sense.

  11. Wrong Haole September 15, 2021 6:23 am Reply

    William Hackett, you have publicly shamed yourself. Maybe you should consider moving to a communist country so you can feel safer.

    1. ? September 15, 2021 2:20 pm Reply

      How does your post relate to his letter?

  12. manongindashadow0711 September 15, 2021 9:19 am Reply

    If you ever catch theCovid-19 or worse. (which I hope not) No seek medical help. We need the room and the breathing machine for the elderly and the youth.

  13. Pete Antonson September 16, 2021 2:52 pm Reply

    Beside the point.
    You used the CDC as authority for your point.
    You lied about what the CDC said.
    It is your “propaganda that cannot be trusted!

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