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2 more travel-related cases

LIHU‘E — The state Department of Health Kaua‘i District Health Office reported two new travel-related cases of COVID-19 on Sunday.

One case is an adult female resident, and the other is an adult male resident. Both cases participated in the Safe Travels program and reportedly boarded their flight after receiving positive pre-travel test results. All active cases are in isolation, and close contacts are being identified, directed to quarantine and offered testing.

Sunday’s cases bring the number of on-island active cases to 17, with 131 cumulative cases. Kaua‘i’s cumulative case count includes 114 confirmed locally, one probable, and 16 positive cases diagnosed elsewhere, as they received their pre-travel test results after arriving on island.

Governor David Ige on Friday approved Mayor Derek Kawakami’s emergency rule 23, which seeks a temporary moratorium of the Safe Travels program and a return to a mandatory, 14-day quarantine. The rule goes into effect at 12:01 a.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 2, and applies to all incoming travelers.

24 Comments
  1. WestsideResident November 29, 2020 6:33 pm Reply

    “Both cases participated in the Safe Travels program and reportedly boarded their flight after receiving positive pre-travel test results.”

    Eyeroll…

    Stop this nonsense, build medical infrastructure to carry on, help those isolate that should. Let the other 99% live. This election virus has served its purpose…Trump’s vaccines are on their way. Open up.


    1. jake December 1, 2020 8:56 am Reply

      An “election virus” never killed 275,000 American people in less than 6 months. And stop calling it a “Trump vaccine.” That idiot can’t even complete a sentence.


  2. marvin otsuji November 29, 2020 7:30 pm Reply

    What did they think would happen….. After closing one business after 20 years and on the brink of closing another after 34 years I have to question the wisdom of our Governor and Mayor. Yes both have made really hard decisions on saving lives and keeping the economy going. For this I do give them all the credit in the world but the process of reopening of our economy on Kauai was flawed destoned for failure. There were so many holes in the process it was never going to work. All it has done was to give hope to a failing economy then take it away.
    I was planning on a trip to the mainland and struggled to find testing location to fulfill the State mandate of the covid testing rules that allowed me to come home. I finally purchased a mail in test, I was to travel on Sunday to the mainland , take the test via Zoom on Monday, send it in. 48 hours later get the test result, which I assume it was negative since I had just arrived. Get a URL code for a flight back on Thursday morning. I had no mandatory second test on Kauai and could have caught the virus since the testing was done before exposure. I found out that other visitors were allowed to fly into Hawaii without testing if they were to self quarantine for 14 days. Which would be great except they could have been sitting next to me on the flight and I was now exposed.I cancelled the trip.
    Again what did the powers to be think ? Every visitor would have been more than agreeable to a 72 hour negative test, 72 hour quarantine then another negative test before being allowed into the community. The price of sharing our island. This is not rocket science !!! Now we are all but shut down to visitors. I had family scheduled to come for Christmas. Some cancelled and the other will spend a week in quarantined in my house. That is a whole other issue that has failure written all over it.

    The new normal is unknown but we have intelligent people governing our community please get it right next time….

    Marvin Otsuji


    1. Kauaidoug December 1, 2020 10:05 am Reply

      It is my understanding that the reported cases are the tip of the iceberg. It can take a string of infections to result in one case of Covid19. The virus can be transmitted from asymptomatic to asymptomatic till it gets to someone, like me, that would be very vulnerable.

      Say your son, who with his family, lives with you works at a restaurant and gets Covid19 without symptoms. He can come home and infect your household without even knowing it. You may even be very lucky and not get symptoms but you can now go get others unknowingly infected! So, we have the son, the household all infected but asymptomatic until someone gets symptoms and gets tested. That’s one infected reported case out of a family and friends.

      Saying we ONLY have x numbers is not accurate at all by this example. This is why masks and the other precautions are necessary or we can wake up with the rest of the iceberg showing.


  3. Simple Solutions November 30, 2020 2:49 am Reply

    Geniuses…Our neighbors travel off-island (I am guessing Las Vegas), test positive before boarding the plane, expose fellow passengers in the plane (more likely planes as there are few direct flights to Kauai), and bring the virus back to our home.

    Selfish bastards….only thinking about themselves.

    This is why it is critical for people to test negative before boarding a plane.

    Maybe the mayor should come up with another emergency rule putting all passengers (including residents) into his bubble resorts. Would be a deterrent for non-essential travel, although an active virus in a condensed area like a bubble resort could explode with unintended consequences much worse than the mayor could ever imagine.

    What good is testing for Covid if the mayor is going to allow “residents” to return home with an active virus? All passengers (tourists and residents) need to test negative before boarding the plane and again 3 to 7 days after arrival.


  4. Kauai Senior Citizen November 30, 2020 5:10 am Reply

    It is time to require anyone returning from travel (visitors and returning residents as well) to quarantine in a ‘Bubble Resort.’


  5. Michael November 30, 2020 6:23 am Reply

    If this is reporting is accurate, and these visitors did in fact, board a flight after receiving a positive COVID test result, their actions are nothing short of criminal, irresponsible and show a complete lack of understanding of what is happening in the US and the world, regarding the pandemic.


    1. Khsgrad November 30, 2020 4:57 pm Reply

      These were RESIDENTS not Haole tourists


  6. Dr. Jim November 30, 2020 6:45 am Reply

    “After they received positive test results”? Is this a typo or should someone be fired at the airport?


  7. Ms. Testy November 30, 2020 6:47 am Reply

    Apparently the 85 year old elderly gentleman who passed away last week with pre-existing disease conditions and taking toxic prescription drugs for those diseases, had a false positive Covid-19 test, because he is no longer being reported as a Covid-19 caused death.

    Only 117 people on Kaua’i out of 70,000 (that is only 1 person out of every 600, or only 0.0016%) have “caught” the Covid-19 flu on Kaua’i. At least to theirs and our benefit after approximately 14 days from being infected they will have developed enough antibodies to have eliminated all the virus in their body, and have millions more antibodies left over to eliminate any new incoming virus infection.

    This antibody victory over the Covid-19 virus means all these people no longer have active Covid-19 virus in their body, but they have developed natural IMMUNITY.

    They are not only free of the virus and protected from future infection, but since they have no active Covid-19 virus in their body they cannot spread the virus to others. This means they are no longer CONTAGIOUS.

    In addition, this means that all these people that are already IMMUNE and NON-CONTAGIOUS, that occurs after their approximate 14 days of their own natural internal Immune Process, then they become IMMUNE and NON-CONTAGIOUS. (And that’s why Quarantine is for 14 days so the authorities will know you are Immune to the virus and are no longer contagious.

    The upside to this is that as much as 98% of these Covid-19 virus infected people will have had ZERO to only mild or moderate symptoms. And on Kaua’i, No persons are reported as being hospitalized now.

    All positive cases after approximately 14 days, and this is why Quarantine is only 14 days, become IMMUNE and NON-CONTAGIOUS.

    Therefore, all these people will have attained HERD IMMUNITY.

    HERD IMMUNITY means they no longer have Covid-19 virus in their body, and they cannot get the Covid-19 virus because of their natural immunity, and also they cannot spread the Covid-19 virus to others, because they have no active Covid-19 virus in their body to spread to others.

    When enough people have HERD IMMUNITY, this is what eliminates the Pandenic, because the virus has no one they can spread in to in order to survive as a virus, but also there is no longer virus to be spread to others. GOODBYE COVID-19 VIRUS.

    We need more people to become IMMUNE and NON-CONTAGIOUS. We need MORE people to test positive, NOT LESS.

    Testing positive is a good thing if you are not hospitalized. If you become hospitalized it may be because you have not taken care of your body and Health.

    Health Care is personal, it can only be done by yourself, every day, at every meal or between meals; and with every activity. Snacks are generally sugar filled junk food. Beware, they are slowly killing you by accumulation of contributing to body degenerating over time.

    Getting the Covid-19 virus, it still may mean that 98% will have ZERO to only mild to moderate symptoms. That’s natural. And death while having Covid-19, it seems to always include having multiple end of life diseases and taking end of life prescription drugs. Wake up Call, learn how to tget Well and Healthy.

    This a wake up call for people to understand that Doctors have gone out on a limb over some generations resorting to selling drug prescriptions for their adopted leaders in the petrochemical pharmaceutical industry.

    Doctors no longer use their knowledge and skills to restore Health and Wellness, but to determine which drugs and dosages, often computer determined, for whichever signs and symptoms and tests of diseases they can find occurring in you.

    In fact the CDC says that, obviously, at least 4 times as many more people have already contracted the Covid-19 virus as have been found Positive tested for; and have become after approximately 14 days both IMMUNE and NON-CONTAGIOUS. But still we need more people to become POSITIVE, and develop the ANTIBODIES vs. the VIRUS necessary to become IMMUNE and NON-CONTAGIOUS, have Herd Immunity, and end the Pandemic.

    And while 98% have Zero to only mild or moderate symptoms, the VACCINE companies say their laboratory made VACCINE will give you a very bad sore arm where you are injected, but also you will be sick for at least a few days.

    So why would you take a manmade risky rush order laboratory disease vaccine, when you can get the natural virus and develop lifetime immunity, just like the measles, the mumps, and the chicken pox give you, and more than likely have Zero to mild or moderate symptoms.

    Besides the vaccine is not bio-identical to the Covid-19 virus, so because antibodies are specific to the virus, you will develop antibodies to the synthetic vaccine but you will not develop antibodies to the natural Covid-19 virus. You must be exposed to the Covid-19 virus to get Immunity to the Covid-19 virus, that is how immunity works.

    It means that taking the synthetic vaccine is not only a waste of time and unnecessary sickness and a bad sore arm, but it is also risky to yet unknown side effects, which could be sterility and no future children in your life, or “pop-up” secondary diseases requiring toxic and even lethal prescription drugs. Bill Gates vaccine programs Africa resulted in unwanted female sterility.

    All people should be aware that fast food, junk food, sugars and chemicals added to food (read every label), Agricultural chemicals added to or sprayed on the food, GMO food, synthetic vitamins, and medications and prescription drugs, all are modern foreign substances never experienced by humans until the last less than 200 years. All of these laboratory and synthetic made chemicals, many made from petroleum oil and coal, are carcinogenic, that is they are cancer causing.

    All these foreign substances burden the Immune System and weaken your resistance to both Virus and bacteria.

    For our Mayor, untrained in Health Care or in Immunology, and being advised by people who make and rely on their income and livelihood from the presence of diseases, who can’t financially survive without diseases like the Covid-19 virus, and the medications and prescription drugs they sell for the pharmaceutical industry; it is insane and discriminatory for our Mayor to shut down 40% of our peoples’ income, and businesses, and basically eliminate tourism that visitors (for their Health), and local residents alike depend on for their families’ Health and livelihoods, and even be so arrogant as to separate our island of Kauai, from the rest of the state, not his personal island, with not even one reported death, and for only a sickness whose serious effects can be avoided and prevented by elimination of non-nutrient food and toxic chemicals, replaced with nutritious foods and an active lifestyle.

    Yes, 1 man, an inherited millionaire, with a 6 figure income from the taxpayers, self choosing the path of financial destruction for at least way over 1/3 of our population of TUTU, men, women, children, and babies, because he alone and a few advisers who do not want diseases to go away, and as doctors is why they treat with toxic and lethal prescription drugs; instead of Wellness and Health methods.

    The Mayor is wrong, he should mandate nutrition and Health and Wellness to combat the Covid-19 virus and so many other diseases killing the residents of Kaua’i, like the rest of America, with the too many common end of life decades long term degenerative diseases. Mayor Derek needs to turn away from from medical disease minded advisors and gather advisors who have proven to know how to restore and maintain people’s Wellness and Health.

    People who are Well and Healthy take no medications or prescription drugs, or need surgery; whereas all people require nutritious food and active lifestyles.

    It’s proven safest and best to follow the God given Natural Path in Life.


    1. Sabrina Cohen November 30, 2020 2:49 pm Reply

      You might write a lot but it is all silly nonsense, people get Covid19 people die and it’s time to realize that if everyone took this seriously then perhaps we could all get back to our normal lives rather than just a few like you who think they are above everyone else.. Get real or get Covid19 and when that happens regular people can get their lives back.


    2. Dr Jim November 30, 2020 3:06 pm Reply

      Hi Testy,

      117 / 70,000 is 0.0016 which is 0.16%.

      IF you are going to quote the CDC, then quote them accurately.
      “The overall cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate through the week ending November 21, 2020, was 243.8 hospitalizations per 100,000 population.
      The overall weekly hospitalization rate is at its highest point in the pandemic, with steep increases in individuals aged 65 years and older. All COVID-NET sites have reported increasing hospitalization rates in recent weeks. Rates for the most recent weeks are expected to increase as additional admissions occurring during those weeks are reported.”
      The most recent surveillance reports that 0.243% of the US required hospitalization for COVID last week.

      Some more help with math….
      The cumulative number of cases on this island more than doubled in the month that we have been open for “Safe Travels”. The number in Oct 15 to Nov 30 is greater than the number that occurred during the preceding 7 months.

      The R-naught for the State of Hawaii, or the number of infections that occur from each infected person (the rate at which the virus is spreading) has gone from 0.9 3 months ago, to 1.05 two months ago, to 1.09 one month ago, to 1.12 today. A value of less than 1 means the virus is decreasing. Values greater than 1.0 mean we are accelerating infections.

      Your knowledge of immunity is flawed. Antibodies develop to specific molecules ( primarily proteins) not entire viruses. If you can block the protein that allows the virus to bind the cell, you block the virus. All the other antibodies your body develops are not protective.

      The Mayor is doing a Damn good job of keeping people safe. Even for those not appreciative of his efforts or lacking an understanding of what we are facing.

      Get your politics wherever you want to, Fox news, MSNBC, CNN, etc. We can all argue about who was right when we are old. But get your health information from a reputable source, the CDC, NIH, WHO, etc. Then you’ll be around to argue the point.


  8. nobody November 30, 2020 7:05 am Reply

    So, are we all conveniently ignoring that we should be in Tier 3 now?

    Anyone?


  9. Peter November 30, 2020 7:18 am Reply

    Two new cases ?!? OH NO ! Quick, shut everything down, who cares about small businesses, we’re all going to die !!! (Sarcasm intended)


  10. randy kansas November 30, 2020 7:20 am Reply

    seems like we could use private jets to remove people from the island that test positive;

    send them to a hospital or military base somewhere else; would be cheaper than the lost revenue we are seeing island wide;

    plus cheaper lawsuit wise to settle with 17 people/cases, versus violating the rights of 60,000 residents, not to mention the suits coming from property owners;

    why are we shutting down the whole place of 60,000 people, for 17 people/cases; that’s like shutting down the whole bar, cause 2 drunks show up;


    1. I’m right your wrong November 30, 2020 6:22 pm Reply

      I am right and all of you are wrong!!


  11. james November 30, 2020 7:20 am Reply

    Why would anyone board a plane AFTER getting a positive test result? I don’t get it.


  12. WTF is going on? November 30, 2020 7:32 am Reply

    we are now, once again, putting people out of work because of covid fears?
    how many of these scary cases have even resulted in hospitalization? how many deaths?

    in 2018, Hawaii had 542 deaths (CDC) from the flu -did we impose draconian restrictions then?
    so far, only 240 deaths from covid in Hawaii.
    And never mind the 2,570 deaths (CDC) from heart disease in 2018.
    Or the 213 deaths (CDC) from drug overdose in 2018.
    Or the 176 suicides (CDC) in 2018.

    someone please explain why we are so accepting of this assault on our liberties for a virus that doesn’t even hospitalize many it infects?

    where were the restrictions during flu outbreaks, which have killed many more…


    1. peter November 30, 2020 2:49 pm Reply

      You forgot to mention the 6 traffic fatalities on Kauai so far this year. Shut down the roads, shut down the roads !

      Oh wait, maybe travelers could be required to take a driver’s license test once they get here, preferably two.


  13. John November 30, 2020 7:57 am Reply

    The 14-day quarantines can’t come fast enough. All these Covidiots – tourists AND residents alike – who continue to travel at the peak of a global pandemic really deserve what they get. At least the mandatory quarantines will finally provide our tiny island some relief.


    1. Khsgrad November 30, 2020 5:00 pm Reply

      Please the only idiot is the one elected to the position as mayor


  14. Kauai Logic November 30, 2020 8:09 am Reply

    Are you actually reporting that these two received positive COVID test results BEFORE mingling in airports and on aircrafts and knowingly interacted with others? Is that even leagal? I know that it isn’t morally responsible.


  15. LTEreader November 30, 2020 9:51 am Reply

    “Both cases participated in the Safe Travels program and reportedly boarded their flight after receiving positive pre-travel test results.”

    How thoughtful of them to expose Airport employees, baggage handlers, TSA screeners, flight attendants, and hundreds of passengers on their flight, I said sarcastically. What the heck is wrong with these people??? Shame on you!!!


  16. Peter November 30, 2020 2:52 pm Reply

    Two Residents ?!? Boarded their flight after getting a positive result ? Are you kidding ?!?


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