Letter for Wednesday, September 30, 2020

Consider your vote for Joe

A vote for Joe Biden for president is a vote for Kamala Harris for president. That is, by the looks of him, Biden won’t last a year in office. Not to mention four years.

Joe has fittingly been called a “Trojan Horse” by some political analysts, since Ms. Harris is snuggly ensconced with the radical socialists who have taken control of the U.S. House of Representatives. Now, they are poised to take control of the presidency.

Soviet Premier Vladimir Lenin, in his writings, tells us: “The goal of Socialism is Communism.” If anyone would know, he would.

Those of us who despise Donald Trump are in for an unpleasant choice when our ballots arrive in the mail. It looks like this will be one of those elections where we are compelled to differentiate “the lesser of evils.” It would be a shame if Hawai‘i’s four electoral votes went to advancing Communism in the United States.

Richard Morse, Kilauea

34 Comments
  1. Ginger Doll September 30, 2020 4:46 am Reply

    Steve,
    Western European democracies have been governed under socialism since WWII. Their social programs are a model of health care and retirement for the rest of the world. It is absurd to thing they will become communists.
    On the other hand, the Soviet Union and the Communist Party is gone. The rest of Eastern Europe had communism forced on them and it’s gone from there too.


  2. Pete Antonson September 30, 2020 5:05 am Reply

    Hey, can we have a little Otis Redding playing along with this recycled John Birch Society junk? Take us back to those sixties, Pal. I think the shameless, dishonest, and really, truly ugly performance by the great incompetent one in the 1st debate settled the question of which one needs some lengthy bed rest! The really unhealthy, twisted and orange pig-face joined Richard Morse today in a celebration of unreality that makes you think they are both in danger of falling off their section of the Flat Earth!


  3. Michael Diamant September 30, 2020 5:35 am Reply

    Honesty, vs dishonesty, lying, cheating, fraudulent, and bullying The choice is a no-brainer.


  4. kauaiboy September 30, 2020 6:35 am Reply

    A vote for Joe is a vote for normalcy and decency. The same applies to Kamala.

    A vote for tRump is a vote for a lying man-child autocratic wannabe.

    I am sorry that you never had a chance to take a class in critical thinking, Mr. Morse.

    And I am shocked that there are as many people as there are in the same boat here in the islands. That is sad.

    I am voting for Joe, and I encourage all thinking citizens to do the same.


  5. Mark September 30, 2020 6:50 am Reply

    Please define socialism that you are taking about,,, I support affordable health care options and support to help families who need preschooL options.


  6. Uli Roth September 30, 2020 6:58 am Reply

    Hey Dick, or Richard, did you not watch the debate? Your boy can’t condemn white supremacy!
    He cheats at everything, even the rules of a debate! Worst prez ever! The Trump Virus has killed over 200,000 citizens, he can’t say a bad word about Putin, but calls our military dead Suckers and Losers! A vote for donald is showing how unpatriotic and Unamerican you can be!! Shame on you Dick!! You hold your nose, I’m MAILING my ballot for Biden Harris!!
    . Uli Roth, Patriotic American
    Kapaa


  7. Elaine Albertson September 30, 2020 7:45 am Reply

    Where does TGI get off publishing this? You’ve done it several times, now. Are you just trying to boost circulation, or do you hold an editorial policy that matches this paranoia?


    1. Barry Dittler September 30, 2020 3:25 pm Reply

      Elaine,
      So, according to you, the GI can only publish comments that meet with your approval ? Dissenting ideas can’t be spoke or written ? My dear, you just described EXACTLY the socialist dogma that the letter writer warns us of ! Obey or be quite ! Follow the party line, do not dissent, do not question, just obey ! If that is your feeling, you would be much more comfortable in China, Cuba or Venezuela. But in the United States, we have the right to express our opinions due to a little thing called the FIRST AMENDMENT to the Constitution
      ! People like you are totally scary and ill informed about the rights of the American people !


      1. Barry, Barry... October 1, 2020 8:04 am Reply

        You think the 1st Amendment applies TO the GI? It’s your kind of (lack of?) thinking that gets us into these kinds of messes.

        First, the 1st applies to the government. They can’t stop someone from speaking.** TGI can prevent anyone they want from speaking through their services. They have the right to NOT associate with drivel and dangerous speech of others.

        Next, no right is absolute. You do not have the right to libel others, or to incite violence, or to otherwise cause harm to others (shouting FIRE in a crowded theater).

        Finally… it’s not a matter of opinion. The original letter is a logical fallacy. One can only hope that TGI reprinting it is only an exercise in outing the (lack of) intelligence of the writer. Personally, I would have filed it in the bin next to the desk.


        1. Barry Dittler October 6, 2020 11:36 am Reply

          Elaine,

          The first amendment applies to EVERYONE having the right to speak their mind. Of course, yelling fire in a crowded room is one exception. So, it is your opinion that the GI should only publish letters that meet YOUR expectations ?? That expouse YOUR beliefs. That anyone with a dissenting opinion is silenced ? In other words , you are for censorship , correct ! The letter writer expressed HIS opinion, just as you did. So, by applying YOUR standards, the nonsense YOU wrote offended ME, so it should not be published. OH, wait, those standards of censorship apply ONLY to the Left ! Got it, communism at it’s finest ! Sorry, I won’t be silenced by you or anyone !!!!


  8. Mark Beeksma September 30, 2020 8:34 am Reply

    But Richard, look at Venezuela. They have more natural resources (oil, minerals, etc.) per person than any nation on earth. They choose socialism. Now, due to starvation, the average person in Venezuela has lost 24 pounds.

    True, the Venezuelans are eating their zoo animals to survive, but Americans are so overweight that we should vote for Joe and try some socialistic starvation. It might do us some good.


    1. Meek October 1, 2020 8:07 am Reply

      If you think any significant portion of the American Electorate wants a Venezuelan government, then your critical thinking skills are equally as significant. Therefore, pushing such rhetoric is rather disingenuous, at the least.

      Stop lying and engage in honest discussions.


      1. Mark Beeksma October 1, 2020 10:24 pm Reply

        Meek,
        There may not be a lot of people who want a Venezuelan government, but the polls indicate there are a lot people willing to vote for Venezuelan-style government (that is, voting for Democrats). The majority of Americans are opposed to almost every plank in the Democratic platform. But, the Democrats hope enough people will just vote against the orange man and not know what will happen if the Democrats get control.
        Beek


        1. Meek October 3, 2020 6:04 am Reply

          Mark,
          You assert facts not in evidence. It demonstrates that you speak from – at the least – a misinformed perspective. But the truth is more likely a disingenuous intent,

          Your claims simply don’t line up with reality. Show us any significant number of Democrats who have been elected recently and their support for the style of government that exists in Venezuela. Who says, “That’s the model we should follow.”? Show us one. If you can, explain how that one is the brush with which you can paint the whole of the Democratic Party and their voters.

          Also, if possible, explain it without belittling anyone or using exasperated language.


          1. Mark Beeksma October 4, 2020 4:32 pm

            Meek,
            What happened in Venezuela was the result of too much power and too much corruption in the government. The Democrat party platform will hand massive amounts of power to the government. There is a complete control of our healthcare system by officials in Wash. DC. There is a total new economy that does not rely on fossil fuels. This is what socialists do – they put so much power into the hands of bureaucrats that their mismanagement of it will ruin everyone. Regarding corruption, there is corruption on both sides. However, the fact that the Biden family has taken in millions of dollars in bribes from China, Russia, and the Ukraine is the most blatant bribery that I can recall. That kind of corruption is the kind that ruined Venezuela. Joe denies it, but those payments are a matter of public record. Hunter has already admitted receiving the payments because he was a Biden. How can Joe deny things that Hunter already admitted to be true? Joe can only do that because he can mostly get away with it because most of the media is completely biased in his favor.


          2. Meek October 11, 2020 1:09 pm

            So, no answer to what I asked then. Got it.


  9. Ruta Jordans September 30, 2020 8:45 am Reply

    Actually, Putin got it wrong. Look at the Scandinavian countries and you will see that mixing communist and democratic ideas leads to socialism. It is a blend of the good ideas found in each, respecting individuals and helping them to grow. Neither in communist nor democratic countries are people achieving happiness. But blend the two and you zoom high in happiness index charts.


  10. tunataxi September 30, 2020 9:59 am Reply

    Anyone but trump.. literally anyone


  11. Paulo September 30, 2020 11:46 am Reply

    For those like Mr Morse, who live in fear of socialism, I give you Australia, France, Germany, UK, Switzerland, Iceland, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, New Zealand, etc.

    In fact practically every single first world nation but ours, living just fine as social democratic countries. They are known to have longer life spans, better education, free or almost free higher education, better health care, shorter work years, higher wages and are heads and tails ahead of us in the happiness quotient based On The World Happiness Report.

    Very scary though, apparently to some.


  12. Barry Dittler September 30, 2020 3:17 pm Reply

    To those that call Sweden, Norway and the rest of the countries as socialist are totally wrong, and when they were used as examples were most forceful in their denial. Those that make this claim do not know the difference between social programs and true Socialism. Social programs such a welfare, medicade and food stamps are government funded programs (paid for with your tax dollars). Contributive social programs such as Medicare and Social security have private and corporate funding with the government making up the shortfalls (again, with your tax dollars). Socialism is a totally different , insidious take over of your basic Democratic rights. Under socialism, you have little or no say in the structure of your government, because you gave up that right in exchange for letting the elite control your existence. They use that power to control businesses, determine how much you can earn, where you can live and the size of the house they ‘allow” you to have. They make policy decisions that effect your every movement without any representative input from those you “might” be allowed to elect. The end result is the total control by a few elites who have all the power and leave nothing for you. Venezuela has descended into chaos under the socialist doctrine, from one of the richest countries in South America. Finally, when they have overwhelming control, you have communism where no matter who you vote for , they have no power and are all of like thinking. This is China, Cuba where all the control is in the hands of the powerful elite. Defy their wishes and disappear. We are moving in that direction now, since social media can be used to destroy the lives of any one that does not fall in line with the new socialist doctrine. And that is just the beginning. So, please, do not equate social programs with socialism. Free stuff is NOT free, since some one will need to pay for it. Tax rates in the countries you cite are in the 55 to 60% range ! VAT taxes in Europe are 17% of a products value, so what little money you have left is not going to go far. So, YOU ARE paying for the free “stuff” but what you get in return is of far less value than what you pay. Be careful what you wish for, as it will come back to destroy you and the country.


    1. Barry, Barry... October 1, 2020 8:09 am Reply

      Does KCC offer adult classes? Maybe distance learning is an option?


      1. Barry Dittler October 6, 2020 11:43 am Reply

        Sorry, but if your only response to the truth is a nasty comment, it just proves my point. As an aside, I have 2 advanced degrees !! I did not find it necessary to tell anyone that they are ignorant, so your comment only reflects your nasty attitude. As for learning, I suggest that you use the internet to research socialism rather than use it to be nasty and abusive !!!!


  13. Barry Dittler September 30, 2020 3:25 pm Reply

    Elaine,
    So, according to you, the GI can only publish comments that meet with your approval ? Dissenting ideas can’t be spoke or written ? My dear, you just described EXACTLY the socialist dogma that the letter writer warns us of ! Obey or be quite ! Follow the party line, do not dissent, do not question, just obey ! If that is your feeling, you would be much more comfortable in China, Cuba or Venezuela. But in the United States, we have the right to express our opinions due to a little thing called the FIRST AMENDMENT to the Constitution
    ! People like you are totally scary and ill informed about the rights of the American people !


  14. WestsideResident September 30, 2020 3:58 pm Reply

    Biden and his party did everything they could to discredit Trump and failed.

    Trump towers above Joe in every way.

    Out with the establishment and career politicians including Biden.

    Trump is a great choice, a blessing.


    1. kauaiboy October 1, 2020 7:28 am Reply

      To Westside Resident: tRump has discredited himself with his words and actions. tRump the man-child towers above everyone as the most misogynist, racist, self-absorbed liar to have ever occupied the White House.

      Were you born and raised on Kauai? Were you ever given the opportunity or required to take a school class in critical thinking? I think not, or you would not be considering our most divisive president ever a “blessing”. He is the largest threat to democracy in the history of the United States.

      The choice is obvious: vote for Biden and for reasonable governance.


    2. Pete Antonson October 1, 2020 1:29 pm Reply

      The problem is, trump discredited himself and succeeded beyond anyone’s expectations! Of course, you could rise above your cult leader’s level right here on TGI and right now, by denouncing white supremacy, the concept, the movement, and the individual groups.


  15. No Get Nutz October 1, 2020 4:24 am Reply

    Trump2020


  16. kauaiboy October 1, 2020 7:15 am Reply

    Get a grip, Barry. You have submitted two identical responses to Elaine Albertson’s comment. You are starting to act like tRump, trying to speak over anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint.


    1. Barry Dittler October 6, 2020 11:48 am Reply

      Kauaiboy,

      I did not see two responses. I did respond to her and then to the uninformed response she made to my first comment. Not trying to talk over anyone, but the the issue of free speech is not open to censorship by someone who does not like the content !


  17. LTEreader October 1, 2020 8:08 am Reply

    It’s pitiful that after nearly 4 years of the pompous windbags nonsense + his disastrously rude & incompetent performance during the debate, that ANYONE would still vote for Trump! Ya’ll need glasses, hearing aids, and a resurrection of your morals, values & common sense!


  18. commonsense October 1, 2020 8:22 am Reply

    Wow! How anyone can honestly praise and respect our president for his actions raises some serious issues in regards to their character. While some of his political actions may have some merit, his personal actions and failed business ventures leave little doubt that he is not fit to lead our country.


  19. therealhawaiian October 1, 2020 11:22 am Reply

    Wow! The naivety, confusion, and dream world delirium of some of our “citizens” is perplexing. For those of you who really think you understand the Socialism model then watch what Paul Harvey had to say in 1965. No matter how good “free” stuff sounds, or how good you feel about yourself by demanding “free” stuff for all, please stop and think! Perhaps a perspective based on history would be helpful? This video will consume just 12 minutes of your life. If you watch it, and it doesn’t cause you to think of perhaps a different perspective, I’m sorry for you and all of us.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0FF13u13WE&t=111s


  20. I saw a Vampire once October 1, 2020 8:42 pm Reply

    I think Hawai’i is still more for Capitalism and democracy. If you go to places like France, nobility shines on the elite upper class. In Italy, the people who own the factors of production are the younger more capable ones to work. They’re the bread winners. Profits and losses go to those who in America care for themselves and look out for number one, them. This is Donald Trump. Capitalism. So if you like it like this, you’re probably one of those who got a stimulus check. The rest did not get one because of socialism in action. Those who chose not to work, got placed on the same page, not working or paying anything and therefore not getting paid or a check. If you’re working but stopped, you’re getting a check. Capitalism. See the difference.


  21. I saw a Vampire once October 1, 2020 9:43 pm Reply

    Billionaire Chamath Palihapitiya, is a rich man. He’s a billionaire investor. He’s not white. Or Donald Trump. But he beat out you white politicians on Kauai claiming to be rich. Asians, white ones like Donald Trump. I’d say Richard is a nice man. But I think we could find something nice to say about Trump even if Richard doesn’t agree.


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