I have a child of public-school age on Kaua‘i. I will not let her attend this coming year if the unnecessary lockdown measures jeopardize her health.
It appears that the (state) Department of Education is following obsolete national guidelines concerning the now-downgraded pandemic.
In mid-May, the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) itself released a study showing that the death rate for COVID was .026%, identical to the annual flu. A Stanford study had same conclusion. So did a Los Angeles study. This means the lockdown was never necessary. Many doctors and legislators agree.
Whereas the initial threat of this “novel” virus was based on computer models, new studies with real data show that most people who “test positive” experience only mild symptoms, and that many people have no symptoms at all.
This does not mean the virus can hide or that it is extremely contagious. It means the tests are worthless. A positive test can be false. Nor does any test identify this particular virus, which has 30 variations already. A so-called positive test surely does not mean there is an “infection” or a “case.”
“FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) is NOT aware of an antibody test that has been validated for diagnosis of COVID-19 infection. While FDA remains open to submissions of these tests for such uses, based on the underlying scientific principles of antibody tests, we do not expect that an antibody test can be shown to definitively diagnose or exclude COVID-19 infection,” the federal government stated.
According to CDC, the fatality rate for COVID-19 is far less than the 3.6% death-rate estimate which was used systematically to scare all governments. For this reason, the Trump administration last week cut ties with the lying World Health Organization. We were intentionally deceived.
“As of March 1, 2020, 79,968 patients in China and 7,169 outside of China had tested positive (with inaccurate tests) for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Among Chinese patients, 2,873 deaths had occurred, equivalent to a mortality rate of 3.6% However, these mortality-rate estimates are based on the number of deaths relative to the number of confirmed cases of infection, which is not representative of the actual death rate (within the entire population),” stated the Lancet Journal.
In other words, there was never a 3.6% kill rate of an entire population. There was never a pandemic. If there were a pandemic, deaths in the U.S. would have increased, but rather, the overall death rate has decreased by 15%.
In Italy and in the U.S., COVID death rates have been artificially inflated. In Washington state, even shooting victims are called “COVID deaths.”
I met someone in Princeville who told me of a family member, long ill from a cancer tumor, who died and was listed as a “COVID death.” Hospitals are pressuring doctors to write “COVID” on death certificates, making $13,500 from Medicare for a five-letter word.
Should school administrators listen to scary deceptions based on “experts,” or listen to simple science based on data?
In light of the recent studies that debunk “the crisis,” how can school authorities ask students to spend the entire day depriving themselves of oxygen? Did mainstream news tell us about the two Chinese students who dropped dead in gym class from wearing masks?
Just as the economic collapse due to the lockdown will kill more people than the so-called pandemic virus ever would (United Nations estimates that an additional 130 million people will starve due to lockdowns in 2020), so, too, will wearing masks by students hurt them more than the false reason to wear them.
It is, of course, possible that a student lives with a high-risk person who might die from a flu, and if so, perhaps that family should adjust their plans rather than the entire student body.
Social distancing and masks make no sense medically. Never in history have all the healthy people been asked to quarantine themselves and lose their livelihoods to save .026% of very-old people with pre-existing health conditions.
Some “experts” suggest that the 6-foot distancing rule is really about keeping devices 6 feet apart from each other for individual tracking. Phone manufacturers recently downloaded tracking software into mobile phones with an automatic update. How many people want to enable more surveillance?
Both the falsely-reported deaths and the falsely-claimed “confirmed cases” should alert the DOE to lean away from new school protocols which will harm the emotional and psychological well-being of children.
My child does not need fear, she needs freedom to think and move and be friendly and young. I encourage all administrators to act in same manner. Move and think on your own. If the idea of home rule ever had meaning, our own children’s well-being should raise the banner.
Like DOE Superintendent Dr. Christina Kishimoto, who banned herbicides on Hawai‘i campuses on her own, the DOE can end the lockdown against children. The state Department of Health didn’t protect our children from carcinogenic herbicides, and they won’t protect us from deception.
Review the studies yourselves. According to science, there is no pandemic, and the entire lockdown, despite Gov. David Ige’s willful ignorance, should end.
Let’s be elders and educators, not blind mice running around in obsolete computer models.
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Ray Songtree is a resident of
Hanalei.
Thank you! Now we have to unbrainwash our children again so they don’t fear police. The left is insanity.
Leave it to the (pea)Nut Gallery on Kauai to cough up enough looneys to populate a group lawsuit of their own governor for trying to protect his constituents, and to think they know better than oh, just a few billion other fellow earth inhabitants. Mr Songtree is my nominee for this year’s Pacific Rim Trumpy Award, presented to exemplars of fake news and conspiracy mongering, in the Best Alternative Facts category. Congrats and…Keep Kauai Weird!
Nothing better than a good conspiracy theory!
Not Conspiracy, good old u take American make money Capitalism. That vaccine gonna make lots money from the likes of you.
How many medicines do you take per day.?
Deeper consideration turns conspiracy into capitalism, make (lots) money through any means, vile or otherwise. To simplify, it only takes 2 people to make a conspiracy. With super lots of money you can invite in international parties.
I only agree with about 50% of your opinions here – the other half sound dangerously conspiratorial – BUT I do agree that keeping kids inside all this time and preventing them from a normal school and recreational life is going to several stunt their physical and mental development. The current K-12 generation are going to fall behind 1-2 years both academically and socially if the DOE does not resume the Fall semester as normal.
This a great push for the DOE doubling down on math, science and reading skills.
Here’s your math problem kids. And remember how you find percentages (It’s also a ratio) Total number of parts (the whole) goes on bottom, the part of the whole ( percentage you are looking for) goes on the top. The divide the top by the bottom, then multiply by 100. That is your percentage.
As of 6/15/2020
Global deaths = 434,388
Global cases = 7,960,865
Please do the math and fact check this article, You can then move on to your own scientific search and follow the numbers on Johns Hopkins website with global statistics: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Remember kids, when someone makes a math claim they better know how to do math, numbers don’t lie. Math is fun, especially when you can prove the grown-ups wrong.
@Teach your children well
When considering statistics you need to understand Data. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/29/us_covid-19_death_toll_is_inflated.html
The reason the death rate is much lower is that almost all asymptomatic cases are not counted in the Covid infected toll. Don’t be brainwashed by “smart: adults who do not take all available data or reputable sources into consideration. He is basically trying to tell you that the CDC, Stanford university researchers, and scientists are wrong and the real fatality rate is over 5%. Completely ignorant.
Critical reading is just as important as math if you want to “prove the grown-ups wrong”.
The commenter above tries to destroy the credibility of the letter writer by attacking his math skills. Can anyone here see a problem with that? Correct! There is actually no math in the original letter! The letter writer uses credible and verifiable sources , “the CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)” and “Stanford”, for the source of the numbers used. If the sources are to be believed, the commenter’s argument is with the CDC and Stanford’s math, not the original letter writer.
While you are correct that Ray didn’t “do math” in the letter, there is clearly an implied math happening since a number based on other numbers is provided. Now, I challenge you, or anyone, to show the CDC study that determined the death rate is 0.026%.
This is the official CDC page for the topic: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
If you were to be VERY generous and say that we only count deaths against all cases (even those that have not run their course yet) then you get about 5.5% death rate as of this writing.
But that’s a low count, since you should really compare the deaths versus completed (not still ongoing) cases. So you add the number of recoveries and deaths and THEN determine the percentage. You get a much more somber number. The recovery number is not on that page of the CDC site, so I’ll leave it as an exercise for the reader to work on.
Maybe Texas is calling you?
Agree. However, if I am concerned about my child’s mental health and freedom to think, I don’t send them to a socialist minded public school in the first place.
Cue the TDS filled responses to your intelligent letter in 3….2….1….
people like you send them to church instead.
as if clinging to myths made up by illiterate desert nomads thousands of years ago is any better.
Mr Songtree maybe it’s you who should head back to school. In math class, to find out the percentage of people who’ve died from Covid we’d divide the numerator, which is the number of people who have died by the denominator which is the total number of people who are infected. This numerator is currently- 115,000 have died SO FAR, (we’re no where near having this over) and divide by 2,000,000 then don’t forget for percent you have to multiply by 100! Try it yourself. The answer is 5.7% death rate. It’s a REAL pandemic Ray, and no, I can tell you for certain the doctors aren’t paid more if a person has Covid. However I would like you to remember and respect those putting their lives on the line for your safety. Almost nothing in your letter reflects reality.
No one knows how many have been infected.
COVID was not the cause of death in every case.
You’re wrong. The CDC requires a positive COVID test to be counted. Stop spreading lies.
The article quotes FDA that there are no accurate positive tests. They don’t mean anything. There are no “confirmed cases.”
The FDA might not be aware of an ANTIBODY test that’s applicable, but you can test for VIRAL infection.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/symptoms-testing/testing.html
Tell that to the families and friends of 115,000 dead Americans from Covid19 .
Tell what? That the tests were bogus and that the cause of death was because of a pre-existing condition? Did you read the article?
Aloha and Mahalo Ray,
Extremely informative article, can’t thank you enough for opening our eyes and minds to this charade just to incite hysterical fear in the people so that the People will be begging for the new Vaccine (that won’t work) to replace the old one that does not work, not to mention the pharmaceutical benefit of $$$ Trilions of dollars in profit to be made over the years ahead in New VACCINE SALES, sold not to millions but to billions of people worldwide. It will just be more Personal Pollution and more burden on the already overburdened peoples’ Immune Systems by injecting an unknown, inadequately tested, man made actual disease, into humans, and worse into children, all for the sake of profit. This is another brilliant money making Capitalism at its highest level of efficiency, just like computers, Facebook and all the rest of the inventions that sweep over the world making money.
Having a Vaccine injected into oneself (the Vaccine which is an at risk, and chancy, man made laboratory disease trying to mimic the already possibly laboratory made virus disease; well, the Injecting of the disease into oneself is insane. But who cares, if it causes more disease and heartache, at least the medical profession will have more business. The medical / pharmaceutical industry can only make their large incomes from disease and illness. They only prescribe and / or sell prescription drugs that “mask” symptoms but do not restor Health…they only manage Disease. Get over it, medical care is not about Health.
And who will have their names on the new vaccine patents as the new upcoming vaccine profiteers, well envious coming up owners of the upcoming new virus patent are already counting there profits from the new vaccine that will replace the current (old) annual seasonal flu vaccine. And if you really are stupid enough you can get 10% off your groceries, just so you have enough money left over to buy cigarettes.
Speaking of patents it has become patently clear that CoVid19 deaths occur 99.99% of the time only in Elderly people with PRE-Existing conditions. And just what is the link between Pre-Existing Conditions and the new flu Virus CoVid19 ?
Excuse me but Pre-existing conditions needs description. Pre-Existing Conditions does not mean acne, a bad back, Carpal tunnel syndrome, rash, or hemorrhoids; Pre-Existing Conditions means diseases serious enough on their own that will End Your Life.
Pre-Existing Conditions do mean “END OF LIFE” diseases. End of Life diseases are formerly called some gobbledy gook geek medical name leading to people and patients ignoring it, that name being Chronic Degenerative Disease. These End of Life diseases have 3 time periods in ones life up to ones death. Explained below.
These Pre-Existing Diseases accelerate the internal degeneration of your body, especially your Vital Organs, and bring you to an earlier death than being Healthy would have allowed. If you are using Over the Counter or Prescription Drugs, face it, you are not Healthy.
Chronic Degenerative Diseases are END OF LIFE Diseases. Their individual names are many, but here are a few: CardioVascular (heart disease and stroke), another matching pair is Obesity and Diabetes, actually those 4 diseases are all cousins, if you have one you may have all 4 of these End of Life Diseases at once and not be even aware of it.
A serious combination of END OF LIFE diseases accelerating ones End of Life on Earth, is a sad condition. It’s a terrible thing after a lifetime of work, to waste ones END OF LIFE YEARS living with the sickening effects of disease and the side effects of prescription drugs for the final Years, or even Decades, of Ones Life.
A few of the other common End of Life diseases are the too many Cancers, as well as Alzheimer’s, Liver, Kidney, Lung, and Pancreas failures, etc., and Intestinal diseases. But here’s the catch, not only are the people plagued with these End of Life diseases, ever on the increase, in spite of the ineffective CDC, that is the Center for Disease Control and PREVENTIION, but when they seek out help from the vast (allopathic) almost all encompassing Medical/Pharmaceutical Industry, they are given treatment for these END OF LIFE diseases with END OF LIFE Prescription Drugs. The combination of many prescription drugs used in
combination can be lethal and kill patients.
For example, a close friend, appearing Healthy but 70 years old, and still working full time as a house painter, but recently on his yearly check up he was found to have liver cancer. He was afraid of course, and agreed to start cancer drug treatment immediately, he was dead on the 4th day of treatment. Some chemicals in chemo-therapy are extremely toxic for humans.
Optimal Life Longevity In this modern era of the Human Race population is at best 10 decades of life, a few people longer. But after only surviving 5 decades one can begin to sense their own aging, or really how short life is.
How many decades can you Happily and Actively live through?
Here are some considerations:
In our Nation 80% of the population are on 1 or more Prescription Drugs per day; and 55% are on 4 or more prescription drugs per day…Dr. Fauci considered the lead expert and speaker for our nation yet for 40 years, + or -, he is the head of perhaps the most failing government organization in America, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, while every year the statistics show our nation is getting sicker and sicker…80% on prescription drugs, WHO are they kidding. All chronic diseases are worse in numbers. While no one on earth is sick because they do not have enough drugs. Our Disease Care System is going in the wrong direction.
We’ve been hearing for a lifetime, “send in your money and we will find a cure in your life time”. Never happened. The only cures so far are for corned beef, beef jerky, leather, paint, and resin. People don’t cure, they get well, and restore their Health by undergoing the Healing process. A process under the control of the nervous system, often in conjunction with the Immune System. Remember all PROCESSES take TIME. HEALING is a PROCESS.
Each END OF LIFE DISEASE, is compounded in complexity by a cocktail of multiple Prescription Drugs taken daily for each disease. Each End of Life disease requires, due to side effects, including the unwanted ones, at least 2 to 3 toxic poisonous drugs, and sometimes more than 3 drugs per disease.
It is not unusual to be being treated for 4 End of Life Diseases at once, causing need to medicate daily with a huge cocktail of Prescription Drugs; as many as 10 or even as many as 15 drugs or more per day.
And as well none of these drugs are meant to restore your Health or get you well again, they are only meant to manage your diseases, and keep your medical signs and personal feeling of your symptoms down as much as can for your fake relief while undergoing internal degeneration.
For instance, High Blood Pressure medications. They lower your blood pressure and reduce the volume of your blood flow to your vital organs. Your BP numbers look better on paper or the test, but your BP disease is no different, even worse because with drug lowered blood pressure, less blood getting to your organs means less OXYGEN and other vital nutrients…the resulting effect is degeneration acceleration to your organs…death is sooner than later. One must find the cause for their High Blood Pressure and remove the cause to reverse the condition. If your BP is lowered by drugs you have FAKE Blood Pressure…an END OF LIFE DISEASE, on End OF LIFE Drugs.
The 3 Phases of END OF LIFE DISEASES:
1.) Childhood introduction to the Causes of End of Life Diseases. Processed Foods, added chemicals, tons of sugar, fake flavors, colors, animal grease, preservatives, and Agriculture poisons, and medicines given to animals you eat, as well as alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. Many of the chemicals today are synthetic petrochemicals, made from oil wells and Coal mines which are cancer causing or carcinogenic.
You can eat hundreds if not thousands of these foods day after day as a child until adulthood, only experiencing allergies, and other repeated minor sicknesses, or even childhood cancer from animal proteins, or else even No Symptoms or mild symptoms; but while you are feeding the child Early End of Life foods, or they are choosing those Early End of Life foods for themelves, it takes decades of this life style self abuse to reach a miserable End of Life of situation later on. Remember disease is a process of accumulation, it take decades of eating End of Life Foods, that become a habit of feeling full, and having fake taste and a sugar rush, and a burden on your immune system.
Look how many snack foods are on our store shelves. Many of the junk food ingredients in the Fast Food and Junk Foods are in the supposedly, or should be nutritious food. Kids breakfast cereal should be in the CANDY SECTION having same ingredients basically as snacks.
2.) 5 decades later, or even much earlier in life like the 3rd and 4th decade of life, Little Johnny is of middle age eating basically the same End of Life Foods as back when a child, but now John is experiencing the End of Life Symptoms, and is going to the prescription drug dealer and getting his first doses of END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS that he will take under his trusted doctors’ orders to the end of his life, which can occur before being 70 or 80 years old, which is not that old when you are that old. Dead in your 50’s or 60’s, or even 30’s or 40’s, is a horrible life experience, being too young for a dead person.
Science knows the causes, so why are there still the effects of End Of Life so early, in misery of surgery, radiation, chemical poisoning.
3.) But why?
Well, oh wrong word, you’re Sick ! ! ! You have multiple END OF LIFE DISEASES and you are taking a Multiple Cocktail of END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, you are one of the Millions in America who are the WALKING DEAD, or maybe just reduced to a scooter, wheel chair, walker, or cane, or maybe your walking around like the walking dead waiting for your first symptom, but maybe it will be your last symptom, like a heart attack or stroke; anyway with END OF LIFE DISEASES and PRESCRIPTION DRUGS you’re ready for DEATH, your Savings Account for Health you were born with is long gone spent back in your youth, you have only END OF LIFE to look forward to, and your falsely being propped up by END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
Yeah we know, drugs are the only show in town, what are you gonna do…well, Demand actual HEALTH CARE and refuse Disease Care. No treatments, live the new paradigm, work on HEALTH every day. Find a Teacher.
The Medical System has outlived its promises and we need Health Coaches not doctors; except for CRISIS EMERGENCY CARE; society needs each person’s personal own GO FOR IT seeking and or maintaining Health everyday. Now that is another story, soon, soon, but for now Back to this story.
Along comes a spider, or a mosquito, or even a virus that does not kill anyone but those on END OF LIFE DISEASES and on END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS (check the statistics), you reach the END OF LIFE, you’re DEAD, and they blame it on the spider, or the mosquito, or the virus. A motive to sell always dangerous VACCINES. In fact you could die with spider venom, mosquito virus, and Covid19 virus all in your blood and none of them could be the cause of death. The Cause of Death is the END OF LIFE DISEASES and END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS you are taking.
Yet except for false positives, and misdiagnosis, or medical error, the virus, never killed anyone but those elderly on the END of LIFE DISEASES and on the END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS; and some young and middle aged people are not exempt from END OF LIFE DISEASES and END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, and if they die with traces of Covid19 in their blood does not mean Covid19 killed them, it means they had an un-Healthy LifeStyle of taking care of themselves.
But wait the elderly who do not have END OF LIFE DISEASES and are not taking END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, for them the virus is not able to kill them. And these people only get NO Symptoms, Mild Symptoms or need a few days of BED REST, even regardless of their age. Some scientists are saying this virus is not lethal to humans. Clearly death comes from the accumulation of END OF LIFE DISEASES and END OF LIFE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
The FACE MASK is forcing you to re-breathe the poisons you exhale with every breath, one of which is CO2, Carbon Dioxide, a poison excreted by the lungs with every exhaled breath. The mask prevents adequate amounts of OXYGEN INTAKE from getting to your lungs, adding the excess CO2 in your inhaled breath and you have form of self asphyxiation, a mild form of suicide attempt.
Wash your hands? Better to drink the (clean) water as your immune system need lots water to carry your immune defensive cells out to your whole body to attack the virus cells, and any other nuisance or disease cells. Your nervous system coordinates that.
Disinfect everything, sure kill 90% of the virus and bacteria, and the remaining active or alive “bugs” mutate stronger and become super bugs, something even hospitals cannot now get rid of with even super drugs.
Well thank about it, this COVID virus scare may be a worldwide wake up call to protect your own Health and stay away from things that address and treat disease, even stay away from those who make their money because of disease…$4 Trillion a year for Disease Care, and disease is still getting bigger and badder. Disease Care is like a Golden Train on a Platinum Track, only it’s going in the WRONG DIRECTION, it will never get you to where you’re going if Health is your daily destination.
OK now for the NAYSAYERS ! ! ! Capitalism is only sometimes good when not at the expense of the public. For this posed don’t forget to blow your nose and rid he virus
I totally agree, Ray. (I figured you would really rile up the sheeple with that one!)
Hey Ray, How many of them there Smart Meter deaths have you recorded on Kauai since 2012?
You are making a real habit out of misinterpreting science!
Pete if we were to gage all deaths on Kauai since 2012 like they determine death by Covid19, then it would be fair to say that every person from 2012 up to March 2020 died from Smart Meters…
You are so far away from being correct; you can’t even be called “wrong!”
Do Kauai a favor and move to Texas.
Ray – It only took one sentence to demonstrate that your information is from – at best – unreliable sources,and largely simply not true. Here’s that sentence:
“In Washington state, even shooting victims are called “COVID deaths.” That’s rubbish. So is whatever source you got it from.
Please don’t say “according to science” when you haven’t looked at any.
“About five cases involved COVID-positive people whose deaths involved gunshot wounds, she said.”
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/washington-states-actual-coronavirus-death-toll-may-be-higher-than-current-tallies-health-officials-say/
I’ve been wondering these last many months with Covid, why they say the people dying are elderly with these pre-existing conditions. But they never say what the pre-existing those conditions are. Are they afraid people will want to avoid the prescription drugs and instead turn to looking for the cause of their pre-existing conditions to make themselves healthy.
For the medical industry to share information with us, information as to what causes an early death, would be like the medical industry shooting itself in the foot.
I’m already considering are the meds I’m on really all that necessary when there are alternatives.
The additional amount of now obvious prescription drugs these elderly would be taking is a significant profile of danger, that make me think that the illnesses and drugs are the cause of death more so than the Covid, considering no one else in any significant numbers under the age of elderly is dying.
If I was to vote on this I’d say people are dying with Covid, but not because of it.
And because it is just another flu, as the “pre-existing one”, that kills about 650,000 people a year with no lockdown or masks or 6′ separation, I have my doubts as to the (need for he lockdown, masks, separation, stay at home, close businesses; especially in the face of the very real upcoming worldwide vaccine sales program (multilevel marketing?) is to relieve us of all the restrictions, but has no guarantee it will protect us from the flu or death. Even the vaccine will have no guarantee it will not cause more flu or death.
This was best and almost the only thoughtful comment here. Nice to see.
Scare tactics not based on real science. No sources to back this up. You’re teaching your child this! Who is scaring them besides you?
To Covid Capitalism… Fauci is not the director of the CDC and you are rambling with the same gibberish numbers and paranoid conspiracy theories copied & pasted information I have already read from other social media sites.
Wow! What happened to common sense people? COVID is NOT THE SAME AS THE FLU and shouldn’t be compared to anything. A lot of people have died who did indeed have other health conditions, but the COVID is their death sentence. Get a grip on reality. Wear your masks, if not for you, then for the rest of Kauai people. Respect Kauai or you don’t belong here. Aloha.
The death rate is actually less than the flu because the death numbers have been exaggerated. Will you wear a mask forever for something less deadly than annual flu?
Citation needed
Disturbing to see this newspaper continuing to print letters like this. I guess our paper has become part of the right wing? This mans entire letter is full of dangerous falsehoods. Journalism requires integrity; not blindly publishing lies.
Right now there is a great deal of frustration and misinformation going around and I find it irresponsible to publish a letter like this without providing context around the cited statistics and performing a basic fact check on some of the other claims.
First, the fact checks:
1. There is no evidence that hospitals are inflating COVID19 deaths. They get paid for actually treating COVID19, not for simply listing COVID19 as a cause of death.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/
2. The number of COVID19 deaths is likely to be undercounted since people who die at home are not counted.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/coronavirus-deaths/
3. While people with respiratory illnesses may have difficulty with tight-fitting respirators, there is no danger in wearing a standard surgical or cloth mask all day.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/masks-dangerous-health/
Secondly, let’s talk about statistics. The deadliness of a disease is measured by combining the death rate with the number of other people someone with the disease is likely to infect.
The study that Mr. Songtree refers to claims the death rate for COVID19 is 0.26% which is 10x higher than the 0.026% that he claims. Furthermore, that 0.26% number is an unconfirmed estimate that many experts say is too low. Most studies using current statistics say that the death rate is probably close to 0.5% which sounds low, but it’s still 5x higher than the flu.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/05/fact-check-cdc-estimates-covid-19-death-rate-0-26/5269331002/
Since the flu seems to be the base of comparison, the death rate for the flu is about 0.1% and infects about 8% of the population each year.
Since COVID19 is a new virus, there is no vaccine or natural immunities for it. If you combine this with the fact that this disease has a long incubation period where someone can be contagious for weeks before they show symptoms and it is much more contagious with estimates of it infecting 50% – 80% of the population if we do nothing.
A 0.5% death rate combined with infecting 50% of the population means that over a million people could die from this if we don’t take precautions.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
Even if you don’t trust any statistics, it doesn’t hurt to wear a mask and take precautions as we open up and start trying to return to normal. This shutdown has been devastating to the economy and if we get hit by a 2nd wave of coronavirus because people don’t want to listen, then it will all have been for nothing.
Wow, this is a heated topic to be sure. Thank you for your sources.
From your source #1:
““If we think it’s presumptive … we can go ahead and put down COVID-19,” Jensen said, “or even in some situations, even if it’s negative.”
This sounds like evidence that some deaths, or even survivors, are being mis-coded. Are they mis-coding to get paid? Perhaps if the patient has no insurance, which also comes from your source.
In regards to your second point I would refer you back to your first source:
“like the deaths of undiagnosed COVID-19 victims, including those that occur at home — contribute to a more significant problem of under-counting the deaths.
New York City recently added more than 3,700 victims to its death toll to account for presumed cases. ”
So, yes, some cases may not be counted and, in the state of NY, some of those cases have already been accounted for.
Your point 3: I’m willing to agree with you here. Millions of people have been walking around with masks on for 2 months now and I haven’t heard of an increase in car crashes, or CO2 poisoning or any of the other hazards that some predicted would happen.
Yes, the number Ray Songtree wanted to reference from the CDC is 0.26%. That number is an estimate based on a model. Models can be, and have been, wrong. We’ll know better a year from now what the actual number ends up being. As it stands today, pneumonia has still taken more American lives between Febrary and June and the overall death rate in America sits at 103% of predicted. One can only guess what effect the lockdown itself had on that number. Source included below:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
Aloha WahineKai, may I ask, which prescription drugs or over the counter meds do you take?
The CDC, and all those obedient to the new rules, You Will Obey, should put up or get out of the lineup. Without names.
Oahu and Dept of Health must come clean and give us the diseases and drugs those on Oahu who allegedly died from this flu virus.
Let’s have Fauci take the polygraph over his interaction with China and Wuhan virus research.
What’s to hide, other than perhaps the greatest scam in history, all those who may have been fooled, might feel foolish, But honestly, lets hope we are wrong.
Sure people died, but from what ? Their pre-existing diseases and drugs? You aren’t afraid to open up the medical records, no names of courses, but just the Facts Ma’am, just the facts!
Basic fact, medical industry cannot survive without disease. What’s the motive to cry the sky is falling and lead us to a new vaccine. The last one obviously does not work (650,000 deaths last year) so why another vaccine, could it be the profit and the patent holders? Follow the Kala !
There is not one lie here. You can find the source links on homepage here http://www.kauaitruth.com
KauaiTruth isn’t using legitimate sources. Many of those sources are basically making things up to further their own agendas. Just because somebody alleges something on the internet or in print does NOT make it “the truth”. Quoting somebody who already said it does not make it the truth, either. BELIEF in something does not make it the truth. Refusing to consider information that doesn’t suit your pre-existing ‘facts’ does not validate your ‘facts’.
Sadly, too many people are “COVID deniers” until someone – or several people – they know dies from it. Refusing to accept the reality of this disease until you personally can see a large enough, unarguable body count is equivalent to wanting those people to die to before you will concede that COVID19 is a deadly problem, not some sort of conspiracy.
The five healthy people we know … knew … who died from COVID19 had no preexisting conditions. They didn’t all live in the USA, or China, or Italy, or some mythical country where the medical & pharmaceutical communities exist only to make themselves rich. They all contracted COVID19 after the lockdowns were ‘relaxed’ where they lived. … That’s enough dead people for me to take the pandemic and the precautions very seriously instead of denying it with bogus ‘facts’ because I don’t WANT it to be real.
It’s a virus. Viruses don’t care about how you want it to be.
Be sure to stop by Songtree’s booth at the next Conspiracy Festival.
Don’t forget to wear a mask…
Or two.