Irrationality is more dangerous than a virus

COVID-19 has provided a window into something far more disturbing than the microbial and viral dangers nature has up its sleeve.

The real viral agent here is people and their irrational, illogical and irresponsible behavior. Some anecdotes and observations from the past several days/weeks to illustrate the point:

• I was in Lihu‘e Safeway a couple of days ago, and there was a mother and father with what appeared to be a 3- or 4-year-old son. They were all walking around the store while the son was periodically engaged in this open-mouthed wet cough. The parents did absolutely nothing to stop this. The lack of respect for the health of others is hard to take;

• Across the country, people are descending upon stores like locusts to strip the shelves bare. Meanwhile, those not caught up in this irrational frenzy and just trying to go about our daily lives can’t even go to the store and get things as we would normally do. You are engaging in hoarding. You are negatively impacting the lives of the people around you while you do this. You are contributing to hysteria and panic. Don’t claim to be “living with aloha” because you are far from it. That excess food is going to rot and be thrown away or sit in your freezer for years until it can’t be used for anything when someone else on the island could have used it when it was fresh. This is pure selfishness. And don’t think that sharing your loot at some point down the road makes you any better. You are still hoarding and, frankly, it should be expected and made illegal with stiff penalties every time something like this occurs;

• A coworker told me that that another coworker told them that they should buy a gun to protect themselves and their family. From what? Is this person admitting that the people of Kaua‘i are not stable and should be counted on to become dangerous? Based on what I am seeing with other exceedingly selfish behavior, perhaps this is correct. The coworker who told me this was clearly disturbed by the suggestion. This is another example of people creating mindless panic. If the best advice you have for your fellow Kaua‘i residents is that they should buy a gun, please stop offering your advice, as you are not helping anybody;.

• I keep hearing people complain about “the media” causing panic. They are doing no such thing. They are trying to provide you with the information they have been able to get (which hasn’t been easy due to the issue to be discussed next). You, the public, are causing the panic. Moreover, if the media reported nothing, you’d be angry with them for not giving you information. You can’t have it both ways. Apparently, you only want them to give you the information you want, but you don’t know anything about the situation to even know what information you want or need. Just stop it already with scapegoating the media for your lack of knowledge and inability to react rationally to what you hear;

• Republican government officials have created an atmosphere of confusion. First, in the annual hatefest known as CPAC, they push this idea that the virus is a “Democratic hoax.” As they are doing this, one of their own is exposing other attendees to the virus in what can only be seen as the most delicious instant karmic retribution imaginable. Now, these officials find themselves self-quarantined due to a “hoax” virus, but we hear not one of them backtracking on their irresponsible rhetoric. The president tries to control the message of the CDC by not allowing it to speak directly to the American people without Executive Branch filtering. He spreads lies about the danger, tells people to continue going to work, exposes his lack of knowledge about the seasonal flu claiming he didn’t know anyone ever died from it, manages to get himself exposed by at least two people, and shuts down travel from Europe without discussing it with other world leaders. Remember, this is supposed to be a “Democratic hoax.” All the while, the stock market is tanking because the message his administration is putting out is one of irredeemable ineptitude.

Honestly, this analysis could go on an on. There are so many examples of sheer stupidity at work here.

People are the virus. Rationality and logic is the only effective antiviral. Please seek it out before you contribute to the failure of society.


Michael Mann is a resident of Lihu‘e.

  1. Michael Mann March 19, 2020 1:23 am Reply

    Before anyone goes there…no “change of tone,” no idea to give everyone $1000, no policy decision that this administration can possibly come up with at this point after wasting valuable time propagating one lie after another will make up for how it has handled the situation up until this point. Lives have been endangered as a result of this gross ineptitude. People clearly still don’t grasp the seriousness of the situation as they continue to call this a liberal hoax. People clearly have no concern for their fellow human being whatsoever when they clear out stores of vital supplies. Did any of you who have engaged in this behavior ever consider the effect it would have on people with a fixed income who maybe couldn’t immediately go out and buy supplies? Did you bother to think about what those people were going to do?

    Aloha spirit??? “Lord of the Flies” is more like it.

    1. Rev Woodruff March 19, 2020 2:41 pm Reply

      “irredeemable ineptitude” …. that’s much too polite.

    2. Mary Sandell March 19, 2020 5:50 pm Reply

      Refreshing Michael….your intelligence, common sense, and knowledge are greatly appreciated.
      Thank You…..Mary Sandell

      1. Michael Mann March 21, 2020 8:03 am Reply

        Thank you, Mary! I feel we all have to push back hard against what is happening here.

    3. lookingforlogic March 21, 2020 6:17 am Reply

      With the banks healthy after the 2008 crash why did we gift them 1.4 trillion dollars? That figure would equal $3,000 per citizen versus $3 million per 1 percenter.

  2. Guy Meeker March 19, 2020 1:49 am Reply

    Well said!

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:44 pm Reply

      Thank you, Guy!

  3. Prentiss March 19, 2020 3:01 am Reply

    Spot on, Mr. Mann!

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:45 pm Reply

      Thanks, Prentiss!

  4. Steven McMacken March 19, 2020 3:20 am Reply

    A voice of reason. Thank you, Michael.

    1. Craig Callaway March 19, 2020 4:26 am Reply

      Perfectly stated. Mahalo Michael.

    2. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:46 pm Reply

      Thank you, Steven!

  5. Pete Antonson March 19, 2020 3:34 am Reply

    Michael has a point and he could not have made it sharper!

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:47 pm Reply

      Thanks, Pete!

  6. Craig Callaway March 19, 2020 4:27 am Reply

    Perfectly stated. Mahalo Michael.

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:48 pm Reply

      Thank you, Craig.

  7. cloakoflove March 19, 2020 6:53 am Reply

    I agree with this letter. I can surmise that the newcomers here, who have arrived since Iniki, (yes, to me, that is a newbie), have brought their ignorant, mainland attitudes with them. However our own people are also just as willfully ignorant as well. That is why clearing the island of the tourists is a great first step. Clearing the island of the Mainland in-beds is another thing entirely. All non essential mainland folks who have a bad attitude and don’t want to comply should be airlifted out immediately. Take the rest with you, as well.

    The only thing that will change everyone mind, is if there are deaths. There has to be deaths first, if anyone here nowadays will take it seriously. People run around every day with the rosy little glasses on. They are impervious to anything. For various reasons. Like, they have Jesus, or they are local born and raised or they are some sort of guru who drinks kambucha and bananas all day.

    The Mayor did the right thing. If no one likes it, hey go to Oahu where they don’t care. But Kauai is protected now, and if there are no deaths, hey great. It means we did something right. But I have news for everyone. As much as everyone coughs and sneezes and kisses and hugs, and Hawaiian kisses, its just a matter of time. We have a huge population here of older people. Sometimes they have the worst attitudes on this.

    They say ‘Oh really? Oh< i am not worried, I had a good life.". So, essentially if you die, you die. Well this novel virus that has never been seen before and no one has ever heard of before may be morphing. New evidence is coming out of Italy and China that younger people can be affected. and die from this virus. If you have it you can shed the virus for up to 37 days. You may feel great but you are infecting others who may, actually want to like, and are trying to protect themselves and survive. Bottom line is, if the mainland style rules here, then this wont work. Your money wont save you, your skin color won't save you, Your name cant save you, your religion can't save you, your lifted truck and great stereo system cant save you, and above all, your ignorance can't save you. So, knock it off, and do the right thing

    1. Genevieve Reilly March 19, 2020 1:51 pm Reply

      “cloakoflove”pretends that eliminating all the tourist jobs and tourists in Hawaii will not kill more people than the virus. Who gets the stress when you cannot pay the mortgage, the medical bills, etc? Who dies from heart attacks and stokes caused by stress created by the governor’s and mayor’s hysterical pan(dem)ic response? How many “FOR SALE”signs will go up after the “crisis” ends?
      The Mueller report threat failed, the impeachment failed, and the corona virus panic will fail. Politicians waste their time trying to create crises o win elections and control of the money bags.

      1. Michael Mann March 21, 2020 8:18 am Reply

        If nothing else comes of my letter, I least want the public to see how many people in this community, AND WHO, are laboring under this ridiculous idea that somehow a liberal hoax is afoot. This has nothing to do with the Mueller report (the results of which MAGAts don’t seem to understand), nor impeachment (He was impeached, just as Clinton was. He was acquitted by the Senate. JUST AS CLINTON WAS. For some reason, in the MAGAt mind, that means SCROTUS is guilt-free but Clinton is not. ????)

        The panic is caused by irrational people coupled with an inept administration’s DEPLORABLE response to something which has been predicted for many years now (those pesky scientists and their evil money-grabbing predictions). He continues to compound this harm on a daily basis by making this issue strictly about himself and his image. Apparently, and quite unfortunately, his supporters are not going to get a clue about this until someone they care about succumbs to this virus. But that is pretty much the way it always has been–some people have to learn their lessons the hard way, and that would be fine if they weren’t endangering everyone else in the process.

  8. nothings free March 19, 2020 7:26 am Reply

    Wow! Michael! How can one person be so lopsided and devoid of common sense? The premise is correct. There are bigger dangers in our Society than a virus. Your supposition is that the greater danger is the crazed individuals, as I quote you: “The real viral agent here is people and their irrational, illogical and irresponsible behavior.” Think one step further Michael. crazy, illogical, irresponsible behavior? All the stores are empty, there is no food, your “neighbor’s” children are starving to death. You have prepared and have a garden, fruit trees, and enough supplies to feed your children for 6 months. What does your neighbor do with the other 10 neighbors who are watching their children starve? Yep, they take your food and your children will starve at the expense of theirs! That is exactly what will happen and this crisis has proven it! The person who prepared is well within their right to protect their property under the Constitution, and that means WITH A GUN! Then, in spite of yourself, you blame the Republicans. Really? You mean the same party whose President was the first in the world to stop all travel too and from China, as the left media, Pelosi and Schumer called him a fear monger? These self destructive liberal miscreants proclaimed that he was guilty of a stupid over-reaction! That one step in the middle of your criticisms has saved thousands of American lives. President Trump has, and will continue, making the right choices to save the most people. He will do it by ignoring and in spite of your left, biased, stupid, tunnel vision reactions to everything he does. The only thing that will truly save our Country is looking reality straight in the face, and conquering it! Liberals are missing one ingredient in that formula….a rational perspective of REALITY!

    1. Pete Antonson March 19, 2020 6:03 pm Reply

      Here’s reality: Italy imposed a full ban on flights from China on the 31 of January. The U.S. began to restrict flights from China four days later. The U.S. policy was only a restriction, with wide exemptions. Italy’s ban obviously didn’t work for them!
      Before you crow about useless actions, address the “This is mild” “This will disappear” “This will be over in April when it gets warm” and “I’m not concerned at all” during 30+ days of golf in Jan. & Feb. ADDRESS THAT

    2. Michael Mann March 20, 2020 12:35 am Reply

      This is exactly the kind of response I was expecting…one in which the person basically reinforces the main points I was making and doesn’t even realize it.

      I will just point out that you are basically justifying hoarding and being ready for violence to protect your hoarded loot BECAUSE you hoarded and that put other people in a situation where they did not have the resources they needed. If this doesn’t highlight the selfishness at work and make it plainly obvious to even the selfish ones engaging in the acts, nothing ever will. I’m going to ask you again, directly–do you not understand that there are people on a fixed income on this island who would not be able to run out and FIGHT with you and others who think like you over necessary daily supplies? Is it your take that because they can’t play this SICK panic game with you, they aren’t worthy of getting access to the items they need, but you have the absolute right to buy up everything even though it is far more than what you need? If this is your take, I would really appreciate it if you would just SAY IT in terms that clear, so everybody in this community understands what they are dealing with.

      Here is the difference between people like you and people like me: I would never even THINK of creating a situation where another person might not be able to get the things they need because I overindulged, and then feel justified to commit violence against them. I would strive to not put them in such a position. You, however, seem to think it your DUTY, if not your God-given right, to be completely dismissive of the needs of others and their capabilities to meet those needs.

      I can hear all of you tuning up your voice for your opera performances: “Me, me, me., me!”

      Your “president” has lied about this situation from Day 1, and his lies have created a culture of confusion which is going to lead to many deaths. He can’t “continue to make the right choices to save” anybody, because he hasn’t yet made a right choice. At this point, all he is doing is attempting damage control to his image–the only thing he cares about. He can’t remediate the mess he has made here, though.

  9. Valerie March 19, 2020 8:40 am Reply

    Once again we get a great piece from Michael Mann, though it’s been a while. Would love to see more on going articles from him in TGI if possible.

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:50 pm Reply

      Thanks, Valerie. I really appreciate the vote of support.

  10. Paulo March 19, 2020 8:43 am Reply

    Michael Mann has been telling it like it is for years. Possibly we can pay attention to this truth teller. We’d all be better off.
    Thx Michael.

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:51 pm Reply

      Thank you, Paulo.

  11. Makani B. Howard March 19, 2020 9:52 am Reply

    Great post!

    People are just too dramatic! Many people love drama in their lives, and it make them feel more alive. The crazier, the more alive they feel. The virus stories just feed their need.

    The selfishness of hoarding is appalling. Just shop as you normally would. People on island should already have a stockpile of goods due to the possibilities of hurricanes. Why add to it?

    Let’s all just calm down and let this play out. We will make it through if we settle down and adjust to the new way of life. Look out for one another and think before you act.

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:52 pm Reply

      MAHALO, Makani! So nice to see others share the desire for rational responses.

  12. Uncleaina March 19, 2020 10:33 am Reply

    Aloha Michael- as I was reading this I kept thinking who IS this logical intelligent writer? All these points are spot on. This crisis exists in a weird space between crazy preppers who are prepared for everything and spring break bro’s who won’t prepare for anything. No need to hoard or get guns here in Kauai. Read about Gunnison CO in 1918 – we’re taking good steps here but we must stay the course for many weeks to get past it. Kauai people can do it!

    1. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 12:55 pm Reply

      Mahalo, Uncleaina. Really happy to know you support these ideas.

  13. kauaidoug March 19, 2020 11:29 am Reply

    Now is the time to really dig down to practice Aloha. True , there are many cases of idiots out there, always has been and always will be but, just look at the story about the two boys and the people of Hanalei helping the stranded. This is what Aloha LOOKS like. It is stories like these, and I am sure there are and will be countless more, that go unsung. The real test of character are the countless acts of kindness gone untrumpeted. We do it because it is the right thing to do. As we protect ourselves we protect each other!

  14. Paul Revere March 19, 2020 12:51 pm Reply

    The media is definitely to blame. Npr, Abc, Fox, etc. it’s mostly garbage and hype. Tucker Carlson is excellent and about the only good / real journalist we have left. Trump is the best we got, motivate and encourage him to do the right thing. Democrats are criminals.

    1. Michael Mann March 19, 2020 7:23 pm Reply

      A creature which cares only for its own image, and will tell all manner of lies to fluff that image, can not be motivated or encouraged to do anything right. “Right,” as in “correct,” or “appropriate,” is not in their vocabulary, and is something they do not understand.

  15. Paulo March 19, 2020 1:05 pm Reply

    Michael Mann has been adding his intellect to our paper for quite a while but for some reason his items were not seeing the light of day the last several years.

    1. Michael Mamm March 19, 2020 7:17 pm Reply

      Aloha Paulo,

      I very much appreciate the sentiment. I have not written much the past few years. In some respects, I feel there is very little point. I have to say that I am heartened by the amount of positive response this received. I wish I could get to the point where the comments of those people who simply don’t get it and prefer to wallow in their sty of selfishness didn’t bring me down so much, but I find their views so incredibly abhorrent that it’s difficult. I had to take a break. This issue was just too much for me to take, though.

      Again, thank you.

  16. Bluedream March 19, 2020 4:01 pm Reply

    The fact that Mr Mann dwells on
    his hatred of republicans shows that he knows it is mostly hyped. And to the other dumb liberals who always retort with “spot on” should try to be more original.

    1. Michael Mann March 20, 2020 8:31 pm Reply

      Interesting, because I have no “hatred for Republicans.” I deplore alt-right populist behavior that keeps attempting to make the naked emperor appear as if he is in full regalia.

      If people choose to comment on such things, they should try to get it right. At least try to be in the ballpark.

  17. Everythingisawesome March 19, 2020 9:15 pm Reply

    Dear Michael,
    I had composed a short essay in my head addressing fallacies in your letter regarding irrationality being more dangerous than a virus. After seeing the first salvo of comments praising you for your thoughts I realized…I had misinterpreted the title of your letter. I thought from the title that you were implying that the public’s reaction to the virus (panicing and hoarding, etc.) was ‘irrational’ as in ‘un-called-for’. Now I understand that your concern was the thoughtless actions of others will somehow INCREASE your likelihood of catching the latest virus from China. I’ll just call it the ‘China virus’ since viruses are typically recognized by science by where they originate from. When I saw the mindless praise being heaped on you I decided to simply take the high road, save my point-by-point roast of your shallow rant, and simply leave you with this: Everyone is likely going to eventually get this virus. No amount of avoiding “open-mouthed wet cough” by little humans is going to prevent it. That’s what little humans do, BTW. They do lots of gross stuff and will continue to do so no how much you try to shame their parents. More or fewer firearms on the island won’t change your odds of catching a virus. Gun violence on the island, BTW, is way behind driving without a license, driving under the influence, possession of controlled substances, threatening behavior and domestic abuse. Check the arrest log in this same paper if you don’t believe me. Back to my comment about the China virus: Ever heard of chicken pox? It’s a virus that’s been around a long time. Most humans have either caught it or have been vaccinated against it. Different gene pools respond differently to the virus. We haven’t stopped it. And it still kills a small number of people that have weak immune systems. What is our government telling us about the measures taken against the China virus? Slow the spread? Is that right? The government’s response to the virus has changed over the weeks because they didn’t know how fast it would spread and how long it would take for victims to recover. Thank the Chinese for their secrecy. A hospital can’t handle 500 seniors with emphysema showing up at their door all at the same time needing a respirator. By slowing the spread to match the rate that we can treat patients we will limit the number of needless deaths. Most who catch this won’t need treatment in a hospital. The odds of completely wiping out a virus that can be transmitted undetected and stays alive on non-living surfaces for days has lots of places to hide and would be nearly impossible to completely wipe out. As I surmised, most of us will catch it or be vaccinated against it. Living in fear of something that is inevitable that isn’t even remotely likely to do great harm to you is irrational. Even isolating yourself on an island is a lost cause. The virus might go into hiding for the summer or a period of time and then come back when the conditions are right. Maybe a vaccine will be available by then. Maybe not. It’s still a good idea to keep your distance from little humans with “open-mouthed wet cough” and give up eating bat soup.

    1. Michael Mann March 20, 2020 8:33 pm Reply

      I stopped reading this at “latest virus from China.”

    2. Pete Antonson March 21, 2020 2:16 pm Reply

      Wow, this comment is like watching a two week old FOX News broadcast!

      1. Michael Mann March 22, 2020 7:04 pm Reply

        Why would you do that to yourself, Pete????!!!

  18. Gloria Mendez March 20, 2020 7:44 am Reply

    Michael Mann For President, Governor, Mayor and all the county council seats. Bless you. And GI should Stop promoting events where people are gathering despite warnings. It is irresponsible.
    Shift your tone, and shift what you are doing. GI is the only newspaper we have. Any reporting glorifying events that are happening, should stop immediately. People need to take these warnings seriously. Maybe someone should just start another newspaper. Someone just might sue when this is over, for promoting gatherings and encouraging people to go out and taking a tongue in cheek and roll the eyes style to what is happening. GI you have an obligation to shift your reporting to the Pandemic.
    But all I see are silly front pages about stuff that is manini. Get on the ball or someone else may just roll into town and overshadow you. There used to be two newspapers maybe it is time for that to happen again. print responsible letters like this one, and cease allowing commentators promoting the hoax theories. Its dangerous.
    Mr. Mann has done an excellent job and this is what the people of Kauai want to see in your newspaper. I hear there is new management. They should understand this isn’t the mainland. Kauai people deserve the truthful reporting, now. Put Mann on the payroll and fire the reporters who are giving this soft sell stuff about the virus. Now. Thanks.

    1. Michael Mann March 20, 2020 8:37 pm Reply

      Much appreciated, Gloria! Thankfully, I already have a job, though. And TGI seems far more interested in what Kimo Rosen has to say.

  19. Kimo March 20, 2020 10:08 am Reply

    MM, you were spot on, on your first few points, until your TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) kicked in.

    Why did you, in the end, make it political? It negated all you stated. The President and his COVID-19 team are doing an exceptional job, given the deception of the Chinese Government in hiding the truth for 2+ months. Do you really think that Sleepy Joe (where am I) BIden could do a better job? That’s quite amusing, if not downright hilarious, if it wasn’t so sad.

    One more thing… stop misquoting the President! You’re just as bad and rabid and deceptive as the MSM (main stream media)! BLAME TRUMP! BLAME TRUMP! ITS THE RUSSIANS! IT”S THE RUSSIANS! IT’S THE UKRANIANS!!!!!!!!!

    1. Michael Mann March 20, 2020 8:58 pm Reply

      Let’s be clear, Kimo, because you are quite confused right now:

      I didn’t “make this political.” I simply pointed out what the “president” and Republican leadership had done regarding the pandemic up to the point where I wrote the letter. Not a single bit of what I said is untrue, and I notice that you provided no actual argument countering what I said, so YOU know it to be true.

      Since then, the “president” has continued to tell falsehoods and confuse people, and is now peddling this racist/xenophobic “China virus” nonsense. The virus is already referred to by at least THREE names with which everyone is familiar. There is absolutely no need for him to engage in this behavior EXCEPT to rile up his xenophobic base. He and Republicans are the ones who have been politicizing this from the very start–and much as they always do, when they start saying OTHER people are doing something, it’s because they are doing that thing themselves. It is wholly transparent to those being truthful to the situation.

      As for your vies on Biden, I honestly think Biden, George W. Bush (who I always thought was dumber than a pet rock), or ANYBODY could do a better job with this than the incompetent being currently occupying the office. The problem is that this thing doesn’t actually care about anything other than its image. That’s why it can’t fcus on what is important for more than a split second, and will always go straight back to the only thing it knows–tell lies to try to make gullible people think you are far more intelligent and successful and strong than you actually are. He has a an entire recorded adulthood of doing exactly this, and nobody should be surprised that he is doing it now.

      One more thing…I didn’t quote him, so I didn’t MISquote him. I’m not sure what misquote you are even claiming.

    2. Pete Antonson March 21, 2020 2:18 pm Reply

      TDS, orTrump Derangement Syndrome is more correctly described as believing the daily lies of the Golfing Goofball in the White House!

  20. Michael D Mann March 20, 2020 1:00 pm Reply

    Exactly, kauaidoug. I give the two young men who helped out in Hanalei much kudos for what they did. What troubles me is that young people are setting the example for adults, who then not only act selfishly, but insist upon trying to argue how it is totally appropriate for them to do so, as some have done here. Adults should be setting the example.

  21. truth be known March 20, 2020 6:15 pm Reply

    Kimo, you made a good point. Unfortunately you didn’t stop after the third sentence. Thereafter you didn’t heed your own observation but plowed on with your own political bashing. It would have been more productive and less contentious if both of you had refrained from politicizing this otherwise useful commentary.

    1. Michael Mann March 21, 2020 7:18 pm Reply

      Again, I did not politicize anything. The series of events in this situation is what it is and a matter of public record, and if you are truly concerned about it being politicized, then you need to be speaking out about what this “administration” is doing. SCROTUS is currently lamenting that China didn’t warn everyone sooner. Well guess what? Other countries found out about this the same time we did, and their responses were much faster and more effective. As a result, this administration has no leg to stand on regarding any complaint about “notification.” And if they keep referring to this as “China virus,” they are showing their desire to incite the xenophobic masses, which is a decidedly POLITICAL thing to do, and you and Kimo are quite aware of this.

      1. truth be known March 22, 2020 1:40 pm Reply

        Michael, the fact that you refer to the president as “SCROTUS” reveals your political bias and reduces your credibility as a neutral observer.

        1. Michael Mann March 23, 2020 9:28 pm Reply

          I don’t claim to be a “neutral” observer. I am a RATIONAL observer. I am no more neutral about what SCROTUS is doing here than one of you would be if an armed intruder barged into your home and put a gun to your loved one’s head. That is pretty much what SCROTUS is doing here. I really don’t care if you find me credible, because THE VIRUS also doesn’t care if you find me credible. It doesn’t care if you believe in its ability to infect the entire world. It will do what it will do, and you will pay the price for the lack of appropriate action just like the rest of us. Your worship of SCROTUS is not going to protect you, and if that is how you are going to approach this situation, YOU ARE ALREADY LOST to such a degree that my comments simply weren’t meant for you. You can’t grasp the enormity of the situation. I am trying to reach those people who still have some shred of decency and rationality in them, but who managed to allow themselves to be momentarily deceived by this creature that is about to cause a wildfire of illness and death in this country once his self-styled “15 days to slow the spread” expires and he tells everyone they can go back to work and go about their normal lives.

          He is the 1st and 4th of the Horsemen. And you are blindly worshipping him.

  22. mytai01 March 21, 2020 2:15 pm Reply

    People complaining about Trump have nothing to fall back on as a better example of response. They can’t say Obama did as good or better with his epidemics/pandemics. He did much worse. Bottom line is these people just hate Trump and all conservative values. They’re still throwing a childish tantrum and trying to get others to believe they are rational…

  23. Michael Mann March 21, 2020 7:30 pm Reply

    Living in a fantasy world of rewritten and incorrect history is not a good idea. No matter how much you people keep trying to make claims about President Obama, HISTORY will record something very different, and he will STILL remain one of the most admired men in the world. I’m not sure what “his pandemics” refers to, but please feel free to provide us with the specifics about hIs response to the Ebola outbreak and to H1N1 so it ca be discussed here. I will say that I don’t recall Obama referring to those as “Jungle Bleed Out Fever” and “Chinese Chicken Flu,” so at the very least, his behavior was far more PRESIDENTIAL than what we are seeing now.

  24. nothings free March 22, 2020 9:13 am Reply

    Thank you “everythingisawsome” you get the comment of the day award! The laughable praise heaped upon this Mann liberal dreamer is worth about as much as a blade of grass on a football field. But then, the liberals all think that way in spite of their underachiever followers like a few of the commenting here! Keep the faith “everything”, November 2020 is just around the corner and our President will have 4 more years to save our Country from these “floppers”. Can you believe that the two best and most qualified Liberals/Democrats in America, as chosen by these highly intelligent citizens and illegal aliens, are two, “never accomplished anything in their lives but suck off the Government’s tit”, senile, old “WHITE MEN”?? Middle America can’t stop laughing…..It’s a beautiful morning!

    1. Michael Mann March 22, 2020 12:13 pm Reply

      That kind of comment is what someone says when they don’t actually have anything relevant to say. It’s all just a joke to you, isn’t it? One big political game? Tell me…will it continue to be a joke to you if the American death toll keeps climbing? Will it continue to be a joke to you once it reaches Kauai in full force, because I can tell you that given the way seasonal flu runs through this community every year, we don’t stand a chance if it gets a foothold. When one of your loved ones dies as a result, will you be here laughing about it? Or will you be angrily and confusingly wondering why your government didn’t act faster to try to contain this? Let me give you the answer to that question right now to save you some trouble—YOU ENCOURAGED THEM TO BE THAT WAY WITH YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR.

    2. Pete Antonson March 22, 2020 2:04 pm Reply

      It obvious from the structure, writing style, the ratio of one grammatical or spelling error per paragraph, and the primary complaint of compliments for Mr. Mann, that “nothings free” is complimenting himself, appears elsewhere as “therealhawaiian” and possibly two other identities!

  25. Debra Kekaualua March 23, 2020 8:53 am Reply

    All of my favored commentators! MM, P.A., unkoAina, Kimo et al, mAhalo for all the word play. Ive often been criticized for my writings by these equally prolific commentators with name calling or that i seek mental evaluation, with nothing accomplishe in these kinds of word salads. However, this is right up my 40-year medical career ally, as well as actually running for mayor and how grand this kupuna felt sitting next to a gentleman, OUR Derek mayor. I had no intention of winning and it was an amazing atmosphere of different community peoples like an audience of Real Estate owners, agents. Better yet Anehola clubhouse. Instead of their asking me a dumb question, I asked “Raise your hands if you are or have been paying attention”? The feedback was priceless.

    Anyway, FYI do you know what city in Italy is being targeted for this OH so normal seasonal flu virus, funded by Bill Gates AND long story short, eventually came out of the socks of a U.S. chemist, 20+ going to wuhan virus vials that were sprayed onto those humans and which effectively started WWIII!

    “Paying attention” needs all your senses. You cannot deny West Kauai PMRF navy usaf military chaff, chemical trails, Ballistic missile practicing, like “oops” not an oops at all, NASA microwaves, direct energy weapons, stalled storms, “forest fires”, which comes straight out of the War Manual practices, that you all will be as mayor said “cut bait”, because right know most people have the Epstein mark and starting top to bottom, those are the ones earmarked to succumb alongside the normal death experiences every year worldwide flu virus SEASON!

    You all are voter american, taxpayers, “home and land owners” like Z or Omidyer or Ellison or the hui o Ige are the ones to worry. Ask yourself why didnt Ige self quarantine when he went to and returned from Japan? You all took the bait and are now fear monger complicit with the Epstein players.

    I praying for all of us! Wash your hands stay calm and watch what is the next part of this worldwide agenda. It involves the vatican, includes Mormonality, similarly like the cult Daybell children murdered by their uncle because “they had turned into Zombies”. mEh

    1. Michael Mann March 23, 2020 9:35 pm Reply

      “Anyway, FYI do you know what city in Italy is being targeted for this OH so normal seasonal flu virus, funded by Bill Gates AND long story short, eventually came out of the socks of a U.S. chemist, 20+ going to wuhan virus vials that were sprayed onto those humans and which effectively started WWIII!”

      This is the pretext to some alternate reality, role-playing game, isn’t it?

  26. Michael Mann March 23, 2020 9:33 pm Reply

    What was the title of my letter, again?

  27. Rev Dr Malama March 30, 2020 9:06 am Reply

    Ha ha ha… what a buncha dopey babbling! Puff, puff, pass….
    E’Kalamai, sorry if you no longer consider pakalolo dope, I am just showing my age as World traveled, semi educated Kupuna who is now considered at risk in this PANDEMIC….

    1. Michael Mann March 31, 2020 2:38 pm Reply


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