Letters for Wednesday, June 5, 2019

Home doesn’t belong on ridge

In 1951, I immigrated to Territory Honolulu, when my dad got a job at U.H. In 1970, I moved to Hanalei with my husband and kids. In 2005, I followed my grandkids to Haiku, Maui, where I live.

This letter is about the awful plan to build a rambling luxury home on the most public ridge in Hanalei: from the Lookout to the U-turn. We picked strawberry guavas there from 1970-2005. The traffic noise is constant, as you hear each car twice: above and below.

Geologic studies show this ridge to be identical to the Wainiha Slide ridge (clay and rotting lava). Imagine how destabilizing digging the deep foundation, with septic tank, water lines, and the giant planned pool, will be. Then imagine an earthquake.

On Maui, a trophy home separated the highway from a beloved view of the ocean. Residents started honking their protest. “No Honking” sign appeared … even more honking … house sold … view gone forever.

Strawberry guava picking led us to a Heiau. Research showed it was for Kane i ka wai ola, God of Creation and Fresh Water, above Hanalei River.

Please protect the heiau by keeping private development off the ridge. Kauai views are like gazing at the profile of a loved One. It is bad enough losing the ‘aina to wealthy off-islanders. Please keep them from sticking their fancy homes in our faces.

Sue Wilson, Honolulu, Hanalei, Haiku

Congress should not be deciding for women

Why are men of Congress deciding what is best for women? The men of Congress are deciding to ban abortion in some states but it should be up to all women to decide what they want to do to their bodies.

A man shouldn’t have a say in the debate of abortion. They don’t understand how pregnancy can greatly affect a woman’s life, positively and negatively.

It seems that they only care about controlling women than women’s rights. Instead, instead of men saying their opinions, they should simply support for the opposite sex. It is our body, our choice, and our business.

Jemaica Tumbaga, Kauamakani

28 Comments
  1. RG DeSoto June 5, 2019 7:49 am Reply

    Sue…quit whining. Instead, get a coalition together, raise funds, purchase the land and let it sit undeveloped….then you get to pay the outrageous property taxes. Until then, come to grips with the reality that you don’t own the property and those that do have a fundamental right to use it as they see fit.
    RG DeSoto


    1. Right? June 6, 2019 3:48 am Reply

      I’d agree with that – to a point. I certainly believe people should act on what really matters to them. But I think you don’t know what “outrageous property taxes” are if you live on this island. Have you tried owning in Illinois or New Jersey?


  2. Joe Public June 5, 2019 9:04 am Reply

    Why do people keep telling others what the can do on their property? If the owners got the necessary permits, they should be able to build whatever they want to enjoy their property and lives.

    If you were so concerned about the property, you have been in Hawaii long enough, why didn’t you buy it?


  3. gordon oswald June 5, 2019 10:41 am Reply

    Sorry Jemaica, a human life is way more valuable and complicated than “a woman’s right to choose”. Choose what? In the prevailing law in most of America, if a person kills a pregnant woman at any stage of pregnancy they are tried for Murdering two people! If that’s the standard, and it is, wouldn’t the Mother automatically be complicit in the Murder of her own child? When does life begin? That’s a complicated and unanswerable question! Is it conception, heartbeat, brain waves, the little baby beginning to actually feel pain? I’m guessing you would be against the painful murder of a little puppy, right? Do you think it may be equally as good for you to feel the same about a human life as you do the cute little puppy? Does the father have a say in the murder of his child? Definitive answers to all of these questions are well beyond the pay grade of mere mortals? Therefore, it’s best to err on the side of “you made a choice to have sex, therefore you made a choice to take the risk of having a human baby”. If you’re pregnant, you made the wrong “choice” in the first place!! Unless raped, for thousands of years the woman has always had “the right to choose”. Choose wisely with your first choice and you will not find yourself being a potential Murderer of your own flesh and blood (cute little baby) in the second!


    1. Pete Antonson June 5, 2019 7:22 pm Reply

      You’re an aging, white, male who seems to want to have control over young women’s bodies. If we did care at all about about the opinion of one of the very few mean spirited conservatives living on Kauai, perhaps tar and feathers would be the response; but, we don’t care!
      When one with no scientific or medical background starts to lecture us on the viability level of the fetus or when life begins, we must say that we really don’t care!
      Since choices concerning abortion are none of your business whatsoever, we can honestly say, we simply don’t care!


      1. ongindashadow June 6, 2019 4:24 pm Reply

        Pete A. “speak for your shellfish self!”


        1. Pete Antonson June 6, 2019 8:55 pm Reply

          ongindashadow
          Right now, you and the other guy sitting on the tailgate of your truck drinking beer know what ” shellfish self!” means and you are having a big laugh. Nobody else has the slightest idea what a couple of morons are talking about!


      2. Justmyopinion June 6, 2019 8:04 pm Reply

        So, You think there’s only a “few” conservatives living on Kauai. 😂😂.. I think You better think again. . If all the disgusted eligible voters were to vote, you’d think twice about writing such trash.
        Life begins when there’s a heartbeat. It signifies the presence of a soul, the source of the energy, and given by God.
        “Energy cannot be created not destroyed”.


        1. Pete Antonson June 7, 2019 3:04 pm Reply

          Justmyopinion
          Voter registration on Kauai has it at seven to one against the “disgusted eligible voters” or whatever else you’re calling yourselves these days instead of racists. I don’t think you even total 5 figures.
          The heartbeat stuff came out of a Heritage Nonthink Tank session on election strategy and was delivered to FOX News. It’s yet another opinion stated as fact. Good luck with that!


    2. George June 6, 2019 1:54 am Reply

      Gordo! Not so smart eh? What qualifies you to tell women what the can do with their bodies?


  4. HaNaLeI iS mY BaE June 5, 2019 7:39 pm Reply

    build 1 house how bout dat!


    1. gordon oswald June 6, 2019 7:45 am Reply

      Well let me do my best to help the confused expat. As stated, “Definitive answers to all of these questions (when does life begin) are well beyond the pay grade of mere mortals?” Who could argue with that? I don’t know, those who think they are God, those with blinding anger issues, or perhaps, those who suffer from some unfortunate form of a personality disorder? God bless you Pete. May your new Country provide you with the necessary circumstances to find closure on your path to reality and “self” recognition. One that will release the demons, and make you happy! It’s a beautiful morning!!


      1. Pete Antonson June 6, 2019 8:51 pm Reply

        It’s kinda funny how Gordo still doesn’t know how to work the reply button.
        Gordo, you still haven’t told us why an aging white male like you wants to control the bodies of young women! I think this is something your neighbors want to know just like they want to know when sex offenders move into the neighborhood! Tell us Gordo!


  5. Suzan Kelsey Brooks June 6, 2019 7:27 am Reply

    It seems necessary to point out that girls and women are also “human life”. Not “potential life”, but realized life in the now. It is not an “unanswerable question” as to whether girls and women have heartbeats, brainwaves, and can feel pain. The issue of abortion will continue to be debated. In the meantime, it would be helpful to consider girls and women as living beings who are more than a vessel; and note that maternal mortality in the United States is the highest of any developed country and has increased dramatically in recent years.


    1. manongindashaow June 6, 2019 4:35 pm Reply

      Ms. Brooks “You’re very true. A girl/woman is a living human being!” And only her will have to face her God.


  6. Carrie eckert June 6, 2019 8:26 am Reply

    Omg Pete, stop with starting every letter by calling a man an aging white male! At least they have the right to speak and were not aborted. What makes your aging white male opinion the gospel? Anyone with a brain in their head knows what happens during an abortion after you have a heartbeat. You are killing a child period.. Its ripped limb by limb in order to get it out of her womb. Yes, there are people against murder and it is not a political issue or a young or old issue or a male or female issue. It is a issue that involves life. Our justice system punishes people for murder. In or out of a woman’s body, it is still murder. A woman’s body, by action of holding a knife to commit murder or by instructing another person to cut up a human in her body and kill it. It is still taking a life. What s the difference? Because the fetus can not speak? Animals don’t speak either, but we know they feel pain and have feelings. I respect all life whether it can verbalize or not. I invite you to watch an interview with Dr. Anthony Levantino and tell me if he is wrong in is knowledgable facts of what happens during an abortion. Or do you think this person is not qualified to say what happens? The female species have the honor of bringing life into this world. I don’t think it gives them the right to kill life once it has a heartbeat and can survive outside of the womb. Give the baby up if you do not want it. It’s not taking control of a woman’s body, it is guiding her to do the right thing with her body. Just like we try to guide woman not to take their own life, or kill another person or inhumanity kill animals. It comes down to taking a life. You have no children nor have you experienced bringing life into the world. I cannot even fathom killing a beautiful life by ripping it apart and not giving that child the chance to feel life. I do not believe a woman has the right to kill just like I do not feel a man has a right to kill with his bodily actions. I will say in the case of rape or incest, I believe a woman should be able to choose. At this point, the woman’s body was violated not by her choice. But in other cases of consensual sex. The woman needs to be responsible that her body can produce a living being. Life… is greatest gift of all.


    1. Pete Antonson June 6, 2019 9:07 pm Reply

      Oh my, the “scorned female” has reemerged after 10 years; just as angry as then.
      The premise follows:
      How can I aggravate him the most? I will become a trump supporter!
      I will support a self confessed serial molester of women, although I’m a woman, because it will aggravate the one who scorned me!
      I will support a “birther” racist, because it will aggravate the one who scorned me!
      I will support a religious bigot; because it will aggravate the one who scorned me!
      I will support the denigration of Roe v Wade, although I’m a woman, because it will aggravate the one who scorned me!
      Here is the flaw in this premise”
      I DON”T REALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK CARRIE ECKERT


    2. Tooindependent June 11, 2019 12:53 pm Reply

      Was it you who called him out last time and threatened to make a call. and all of a sudden was gone from commenting, but then after awhile there was a new commenter “just Saying ”. This one was just as rude a real gem. . Next time just say F.O.A.D. When people hide behind a code when you say the nasty things people will know who you are. Learn to skip in one ear out the other.


  7. Take it easy... June 6, 2019 9:04 am Reply

    Sue Wilson,

    If a person wants to build a mansion on unstable ground and they have the money to do so let them. Kauai has no sense of planning/zoning to begin with, why would anything change now? Also no sense you complain about the wealthy off islanders coming in and buying up paradise when Hawaii has historically low tax rates compared to the rest of the nation. As long as it’s for sale and the taxes are low someone somewhere is going to be a buyer.

    Jemaica Tumbaga,

    Your right. We should only allow women to vote on issues regarding women and men to vote on issues regarding men. No reason society as a whole should have a say on the laws governing the society as a whole. Could be better, could be living in Mozambique where abortion of all kinds is legal. I hear it’s a nice place this time of year.


  8. commonsense June 6, 2019 12:39 pm Reply

    NO ONE has a right to tell another person what they can and cannot do to their own body. Why so much anger and nastiness in these comments? Can’t we all try to have adult conversations and to communicate by listening to others opinions? I agree, some comments are pretty out there, but we can still contribute to discussions without attacking people. There is too much negativity and division happening already in this country.


  9. rk669 June 6, 2019 3:44 pm Reply

    It doesn’t matter what color you paint it,abortion is taking the life of an innocent child!


    1. polu June 7, 2019 5:50 am Reply

      I’d take issue with the word “child” in your statement. And that is the problem in the debate, I think.


    2. james June 7, 2019 7:24 am Reply

      A zygote, or an embryo for that matter, is not the same as a child. Can’t survive outside of the womb and is not a person. So, with your reasoning, you would also want to outlaw the use of the morning after pills, ie Plan B? I would never presume to tell someone else what to do with their body. What if it was a crime to be overweight because of the strain on our health services and the public’s use of tax funds spent on overweight people’s health issues? Should we make it illegal to be overweight?


  10. tunataxi June 7, 2019 8:22 am Reply

    Don’t want an abortion… don’t get one. It’s a simple concept. Stop infringing on the rights of others to control their own destiny because “YOU” feel otherwise


  11. gordon oswald June 8, 2019 7:24 am Reply

    Well, to sum it up. Little Petey and the rest of the “women decide for women and men for men, it’s just a Zygote/Embryo etc.” crowd of fools, you are incredibly naïve and self centered with a myopic view of the issue. Let’s hope that doesn’t affect the rest of your decision making processes as you unaborted humans proceed through your lives. A women does not have the right to choose the fate of any other human being whether it’s walking down the street, or in the womb. Every unborn child also has a man who created it who has rights equal to the womb provider who “made the choice” to undertake the recreational activity that resulted in the creation of another person, whose rights you choose to ignore. Therein lies the problem! That little forming child is human, it is going to be a child 100% of the time when it is born, and it is precious to all of humanity outside of the evil and stupid ones among us. If you are pro abortion, you are pro Nazi Germany who claimed Jews were not human so murder is appropriate, or the slave owners of the world who proclaimed Blacks were not full humans so slavery was just fine. You are the modern day morons who are stumbling all over yourselves to prove your lack of intelligence and heart. Led by a little man in the Philippines who was not aborted and has gone on the be a nasty, insecure, loser who in spite of all his moronic statements, and is obviously suffering with an angry soul. May God bless us all, and that includes the Nazis, slave owners, little babies in the womb, and those who have joined the effort to murder them.


    1. George June 8, 2019 1:49 pm Reply

      Pro abortion = pro nazi? Wow gordo.


    2. Please June 15, 2019 1:17 pm Reply

      Please Gordon, learn to argue with some respect for the person on the other side(s) of the issue.


  12. Pete Antonson June 8, 2019 1:40 pm Reply

    Oh Goody! Oswald is offering a History lesson along with his usual name calling! The problem is, he’s too much like his leader donnie j., who hasn’t had a History class or opened a book since the early 70’s. The most laughable part is that, under those very same Nazis, whose name Oswald uses in vain, providing an Aryan Woman with an abortion was a capital offense. The comparison with attempts to do the same by Oswald’s redneck, raw meat eating, right wing partners in Alabama and Texas is more than apt. The direction of ALL right wing movements, including the current one and the Nazi one, is the suppression and oppression of those who are different; whether it be a brown boy in a cage at the border, or a young black woman who must carry to term an infant no republican will ever help provide for. Because these disgusting attributes have been on center stage for three years now, we see that 62% of all woman polled will refuse to vote for the self-confessed serial molester of women currently in the White House! The pendulum is starting it’s swing!


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